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Yeah, you are basically forced to pirate movies if you want it in good streaming quality. Most of the 4K HDR movies on Netflix are just available as 1080p SDR

Yeah, you are basically forced to pirate movies if you want it in good streaming quality. Most of the 4K HDR movies on Netflix are just available as 1080p SDR even with a 4K subscription, to get 4K HDR Atmos quality streaming you gotta pirate them. It's so damn dumb.

wil421 6y ago
Not against pirating in the least bit but you can’t say you have to pirate to get the best 4K it’s just easier and cheaper. Disregarding the not available in my region argument. The Blu-Ray is still available for purchase in most regions. The people in the article were not ripping streaming services they were ripping unreleased DVDs and Blu-Rays.
- kristofferR 6y ago
  Blu-Ray is not an option, I'm talking about streaming here.
  - wil421 6y ago
    There are many 4K rental options available but at $6.99 or so a pop means pirating is cheaper and easier once again. Cross platform sharing of rentals or digital purchases is crap, pirating is again easier.
hogFeast 6y ago
It is also way easier to access and (often) faster...or so I am told. We are in 2020, and some guy in his mother's basement with a PHP site is able to provide better service than multi-billion dollar media companies... ...maybe if they didn't spend all their time suing people.
- curryst 6y ago
  In fairness, the average user and use case is very different. Pirating is less instant gratification since you have to wait on the download. Pirates are also generally okay with having the only peer be someone uploading at 5KB/s. Trackers go down with relative frequency. None of that would fly on a paid streaming site. I have wondered why no streaming service uses or offers some sort of P2P. I would think it would be great for popular releases, and you could shift some of your bandwidth costs. It also helps get you around ISPs who want you to pay for interconnects. Maybe they're just concerned about delivering it in a raw format? I would've expected they could put some DRM on it
  - kristofferR 6y ago
    Spotify started P2P, but moved away from it. The rest of what you're saying is hilariously inaccurate, you don't have to wait for downloads, if you want to pirate-streaming of 4K HDR Blu-Rays you just get Real-Debrid and TVZion for example.

wil421 6y ago

Not against pirating in the least bit but you can’t say you have to pirate to get the best 4K it’s just easier and cheaper. Disregarding the not available in my region argument. The Blu-Ray is still available for purchase in most regions. The people in the article were not ripping streaming services they were ripping unreleased DVDs and Blu-Rays.

kristofferR 6y ago
Blu-Ray is not an option, I'm talking about streaming here.
- wil421 6y ago
  There are many 4K rental options available but at $6.99 or so a pop means pirating is cheaper and easier once again. Cross platform sharing of rentals or digital purchases is crap, pirating is again easier.

hogFeast 6y ago

It is also way easier to access and (often) faster...or so I am told. We are in 2020, and some guy in his mother's basement with a PHP site is able to provide better service than multi-billion dollar media companies... ...maybe if they didn't spend all their time suing people.

curryst 6y ago
In fairness, the average user and use case is very different. Pirating is less instant gratification since you have to wait on the download. Pirates are also generally okay with having the only peer be someone uploading at 5KB/s. Trackers go down with relative frequency. None of that would fly on a paid streaming site. I have wondered why no streaming service uses or offers some sort of P2P. I would think it would be great for popular releases, and you could shift some of your bandwidth costs. It also helps get you around ISPs who want you to pay for interconnects. Maybe they're just concerned about delivering it in a raw format? I would've expected they could put some DRM on it
- kristofferR 6y ago
  Spotify started P2P, but moved away from it. The rest of what you're saying is hilariously inaccurate, you don't have to wait for downloads, if you want to pirate-streaming of 4K HDR Blu-Rays you just get Real-Debrid and TVZion for example.