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Great post. But I can't help wonder how governments would stop an organisation that has sufficient technology to go and mine the moon. A well-capitalised moon

Great post. But I can't help wonder how governments would stop an organisation that has sufficient technology to go and mine the moon. A well-capitalised moon mining operation could maintain a base in space and send energy to Earth via laser beam (or whatever similar scientific approach you favour). I'm sure that governments could confiscate earth-bound assets of such enterprises, but they will presumably retaliate by keeping all their assets in space. I think that exploitation of space (as an activity) will completely screw with our concepts of "nation" and "government". Once a private enterprise can go mine asteroids they're going to have far more capital (i.e. money) than any nation on Earth.

HelloBeautiful 16y ago
>> Once a private enterprise can go mine asteroids they're going to have far more capital (i.e. money) than any nation on Earth. Private enterprises like the Rothschilds and Rockefellers have had more money than any nation on Earth for more than a century.
- arctangent 16y ago
  I'm not convinced that you're correct, but let's assume so anyway. The point I am making is that technological superiority buys you far more than mere cash. This is why I referred to "capital" and parenthesised "money". Apologies if this wasn't clear enough.
  - HelloBeautiful 16y ago
    If you assume so, you'll see that the current masters of our universe will not allow a company to build the capital and technology to industrialize space, until they have the control packet. They are not stupid you see. Same thing happened with IBM, HP, Microsoft, Oracle, Google, etc. There were many other technologies that had the potential to change the global political system, like the Internet.
- InnocentB 16y ago
  I've never seen any reference saying the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers ever had more than a few hundred billion in today's dollars. Compare to the US federal budget, which is over 3 trillion per year.
  - HelloBeautiful 16y ago
    I, and many others, believe Rothschilds have over 500 trillion. Plus 80% share in Bank Federal Reserve New York ...
    - waterlesscloud 16y ago
      I am currently neutral towards your assertion. Can you provide a link that tips the balance one way or the other?
      - HelloBeautiful 16y ago
        Well buddy, it's up to you. My advice: do your own research and make your own conclusions. There are a number of books on Rothschilds and a ton of Google hits. Generally to understand the history of any advanced civilization you have to follow the money. And since 1815 Rothschild have had enough capital and reputation amongst private investors to decide who rules in most countries, which country has the credit to start a war, which country/alliance has the money to win a war, etc
        rhizome 16y ago
        There are a number of books on Rothschilds and a ton of Google hits. Dude, that's such an utter cop-out.
        HelloBeautiful 16y ago
        http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm (short intro into Rothschilds and how they control things) http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.h... (timeline with narrative) http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm (banking and usury timeline in general) http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt (powerpoint slide deck on Rothschilds from the sources above) http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/39506 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/re... (how Nathan Rothschild cornered the London Stock Exchange and became a billionaire in early 1800s). http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5352106773770802849 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5352106773770802849 (Money as Debt - quintessential primer on fractional reserve banking and debt) Money Masters - http://www.sprword.com/videos/moneymasters/ http://www.sprword.com/videos/moneymasters/ The Secret of Oz Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cq9yEVcGIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cq9yEVcGIU A few more http://linkedtheory.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-economic-collapse-ahead.html http://linkedtheory.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-economic-coll...
jrockway 16y ago
A well-capitalised moon mining operation could maintain a base in space and send energy to Earth via laser beam (or whatever similar scientific approach you favour). I'm sure that governments could confiscate earth-bound assets of such enterprises, but they will presumably retaliate by keeping all their assets in space. So you're saying that I have a super-energetic space-based laser, and that I would retaliate by stockpiling energy? I'm pretty sure I would just aim the laser at some target of strategic value and watch it melt instead. Highly illegal, maybe... but what's the point of having a space-based laser if you don't get to unleash it from time to time upon your enemies?

HelloBeautiful 16y ago

>> Once a private enterprise can go mine asteroids they're going to have far more capital (i.e. money) than any nation on Earth. Private enterprises like the Rothschilds and Rockefellers have had more money than any nation on Earth for more than a century.

arctangent 16y ago
I'm not convinced that you're correct, but let's assume so anyway. The point I am making is that technological superiority buys you far more than mere cash. This is why I referred to "capital" and parenthesised "money". Apologies if this wasn't clear enough.
- HelloBeautiful 16y ago
  If you assume so, you'll see that the current masters of our universe will not allow a company to build the capital and technology to industrialize space, until they have the control packet. They are not stupid you see. Same thing happened with IBM, HP, Microsoft, Oracle, Google, etc. There were many other technologies that had the potential to change the global political system, like the Internet.
InnocentB 16y ago
I've never seen any reference saying the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers ever had more than a few hundred billion in today's dollars. Compare to the US federal budget, which is over 3 trillion per year.
- HelloBeautiful 16y ago
  I, and many others, believe Rothschilds have over 500 trillion. Plus 80% share in Bank Federal Reserve New York ...
  - waterlesscloud 16y ago
    I am currently neutral towards your assertion. Can you provide a link that tips the balance one way or the other?
    - HelloBeautiful 16y ago
      Well buddy, it's up to you. My advice: do your own research and make your own conclusions. There are a number of books on Rothschilds and a ton of Google hits. Generally to understand the history of any advanced civilization you have to follow the money. And since 1815 Rothschild have had enough capital and reputation amongst private investors to decide who rules in most countries, which country has the credit to start a war, which country/alliance has the money to win a war, etc
      - rhizome 16y ago
        There are a number of books on Rothschilds and a ton of Google hits. Dude, that's such an utter cop-out.
        HelloBeautiful 16y ago
        http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm http://www.rense.com/general79/tril.htm (short intro into Rothschilds and how they control things) http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.htm http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild.h... (timeline with narrative) http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bankers.htm (banking and usury timeline in general) http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/RothschildsTimeline.ppt (powerpoint slide deck on Rothschilds from the sources above) http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/read/39506 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/noframes/re... (how Nathan Rothschild cornered the London Stock Exchange and became a billionaire in early 1800s). http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5352106773770802849 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5352106773770802849 (Money as Debt - quintessential primer on fractional reserve banking and debt) Money Masters - http://www.sprword.com/videos/moneymasters/ http://www.sprword.com/videos/moneymasters/ The Secret of Oz Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cq9yEVcGIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cq9yEVcGIU A few more http://linkedtheory.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-economic-collapse-ahead.html http://linkedtheory.blogspot.com/2011/02/world-economic-coll...

jrockway 16y ago

A well-capitalised moon mining operation could maintain a base in space and send energy to Earth via laser beam (or whatever similar scientific approach you favour). I'm sure that governments could confiscate earth-bound assets of such enterprises, but they will presumably retaliate by keeping all their assets in space. So you're saying that I have a super-energetic space-based laser, and that I would retaliate by stockpiling energy? I'm pretty sure I would just aim the laser at some target of strategic value and watch it melt instead. Highly illegal, maybe... but what's the point of having a space-based laser if you don't get to unleash it from time to time upon your enemies?