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Emm. no thank you. History has shown that it will be abused. Also, the curation makes sure, or at least does their best effort, to catch phishing screens etc.

Emm. no thank you. History has shown that it will be abused. Also, the curation makes sure, or at least does their best effort, to catch phishing screens etc. Payments/wallet for example require the lock button. You can't mimic that. The App Store and iOS lockdown are one of the biggest reasons I'm on Apple devices. On macOS, I think there should be even more sandboxing and process separation. 30% might be a bit too much for certain types of transactions, but that's not the same reasoning as "allow 3rd party app stores" I'm surprised people aren't talking about other appstores / platforms. It's just good-old-apple-bashing.

ryanbrunner 6y ago
It's easy to just not use non-Apple app stores though. That's the current state of things on Google, where other app stores are allowed but the vast majority of people just use Google. If you personally value security and a smooth user experience over being able to install whatever you want go for it, no one would ever force you to use another app store.
- j2bax 6y ago
  I imagine it would turn out similar to the game store market on PC. You'd have the various large publishers all having their own stores to get their games/software. Personally, I much prefer to just buy and manage all of my games through Steam... but I do have a handful of games through other launchers. It's annoying, but it would be weird to not allow them to control how they deploy their software.
- radley 6y ago
  > on Google, where other app stores are allowed but the vast majority of people just use Google... no one would ever force you to use another app store. Google implemented several hurdles to drive users away from competitive app stores. They're all but forcing people to use the Play Store.
  - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
    How so? I can open my web browser right now and install F-Droid in a matter of a minute. I assume the same holds true for Amazon's app store.
    - ThatPlayer 6y ago
      By having Android limit the ability to do things like auto-update an app or install an app without additional prompts. If you've ever used F-Droid with say 10 apps that need updates, you're going to have to click through update on each one 10 times.
orangecat 6y ago
On macOS, I think there should be even more sandboxing and process separation. I agree, and that's very different from forbidding unapproved software. If you support the iOS lockdown, how can you say that Apple shouldn't do the same thing on macOS? For that matter, why shouldn't they be aggressively filtering what web sites Safari can view? By failing to do these things they are continuing to leave users vulnerable to malicious content.

ryanbrunner 6y ago

It's easy to just not use non-Apple app stores though. That's the current state of things on Google, where other app stores are allowed but the vast majority of people just use Google. If you personally value security and a smooth user experience over being able to install whatever you want go for it, no one would ever force you to use another app store.

j2bax 6y ago
I imagine it would turn out similar to the game store market on PC. You'd have the various large publishers all having their own stores to get their games/software. Personally, I much prefer to just buy and manage all of my games through Steam... but I do have a handful of games through other launchers. It's annoying, but it would be weird to not allow them to control how they deploy their software.
radley 6y ago
> on Google, where other app stores are allowed but the vast majority of people just use Google... no one would ever force you to use another app store. Google implemented several hurdles to drive users away from competitive app stores. They're all but forcing people to use the Play Store.
- Tijdreiziger 6y ago
  How so? I can open my web browser right now and install F-Droid in a matter of a minute. I assume the same holds true for Amazon's app store.
  - ThatPlayer 6y ago
    By having Android limit the ability to do things like auto-update an app or install an app without additional prompts. If you've ever used F-Droid with say 10 apps that need updates, you're going to have to click through update on each one 10 times.

orangecat 6y ago

On macOS, I think there should be even more sandboxing and process separation. I agree, and that's very different from forbidding unapproved software. If you support the iOS lockdown, how can you say that Apple shouldn't do the same thing on macOS? For that matter, why shouldn't they be aggressively filtering what web sites Safari can view? By failing to do these things they are continuing to leave users vulnerable to malicious content.