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Look MacOS They do block "unidentified" apps by default but you still have the option to run it anyway (after a series of warnings maybe) But you can still ru

Look MacOS They do block "unidentified" apps by default but you still have the option to run it anyway (after a series of warnings maybe) But you can still run them And I think it can be a start

scarface74 6y ago
And that worked out really well for Vista and UAC. People have become blindly accustomed to just clicking ok.
- mumblerino 6y ago
  That’s the point, in macOS it never runs by just clicking ok. The selected button is “Move to Trash” and the second button is “Cancel” To run those apps, you have to open System Preferences or right-click them (which I don’t remember if it’s still allowed)
- contextfree 6y ago
  It seems to have worked out at least semi-well? A lot less software on Windows requires admin permissions than did pre-Vista?
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Having admin privileges doesn’t matter. Any software you install still has read and write permissions to all of your files, can encrypt your files (ransomware) can read your contacts (which hasn’t changed since the ILoveYou days in the early 2000s), etc.
    - contextfree 6y ago
      That's true of full-trust (i.e., "Win32") software and that's why AppContainer (i.e., "UWP") was introduced. Moving the Windows software ecosystem to adopt AppContainer/UWP more pervasively is still a work in progress, but surely moving away from everything requiring admin privileges is prerequisite to any such more fine-grained sandboxing?
      - scarface74 6y ago
        And we get back to the “problem”. Any app that wanted to do harm wouldn’t opt in to use UWP. If you are only going to use apps that can use UWP you might as well use an iPad and not deal with the bloat of Windows which is still a horrible experience on a tablet or convertible. Windows and Macs are “insecure by design”. They almost have to be to be more usable than the iPad. That’s not meant to be a criticism toward Windows. All either Apple or Microsoft can do is throw up dialogs and people just become accustomed to clicking on “Ok”.
sroussey 6y ago
No, you must get Apple to approve/notarize now, regardless of Mac App Store.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Notarization is currently not a requirement.
  - sroussey 6y ago
    I can’t run anything on my Mac that was downloaded from the internet and not signed and notarized.

Look MacOS They do block "unidentified" apps by default but you still have the option to run it anyway (after a series of warnings maybe) But you can still run them And I think it can be a start

scarface74 6y ago

And that worked out really well for Vista and UAC. People have become blindly accustomed to just clicking ok.

mumblerino 6y ago
That’s the point, in macOS it never runs by just clicking ok. The selected button is “Move to Trash” and the second button is “Cancel” To run those apps, you have to open System Preferences or right-click them (which I don’t remember if it’s still allowed)
contextfree 6y ago
It seems to have worked out at least semi-well? A lot less software on Windows requires admin permissions than did pre-Vista?
- scarface74 6y ago
  Having admin privileges doesn’t matter. Any software you install still has read and write permissions to all of your files, can encrypt your files (ransomware) can read your contacts (which hasn’t changed since the ILoveYou days in the early 2000s), etc.
  - contextfree 6y ago
    That's true of full-trust (i.e., "Win32") software and that's why AppContainer (i.e., "UWP") was introduced. Moving the Windows software ecosystem to adopt AppContainer/UWP more pervasively is still a work in progress, but surely moving away from everything requiring admin privileges is prerequisite to any such more fine-grained sandboxing?
    - scarface74 6y ago
      And we get back to the “problem”. Any app that wanted to do harm wouldn’t opt in to use UWP. If you are only going to use apps that can use UWP you might as well use an iPad and not deal with the bloat of Windows which is still a horrible experience on a tablet or convertible. Windows and Macs are “insecure by design”. They almost have to be to be more usable than the iPad. That’s not meant to be a criticism toward Windows. All either Apple or Microsoft can do is throw up dialogs and people just become accustomed to clicking on “Ok”.

sroussey 6y ago

No, you must get Apple to approve/notarize now, regardless of Mac App Store.

saagarjha 6y ago
Notarization is currently not a requirement.
- sroussey 6y ago
  I can’t run anything on my Mac that was downloaded from the internet and not signed and notarized.