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Palantir builds tools for other government agencies to analyze their own data. Palantir the company doesn't see the data that Palantir the tool (Gotham or Found

Palantir builds tools for other government agencies to analyze their own data. Palantir the company doesn't see the data that Palantir the tool (Gotham or Foundry) is used to analyze.

bergstromm466 6y ago
Why do you still believe the bullshit corporate PR? Snowden, Manning, Assange... Crypto AG, Cambridge Analytica, etc. How many times does it need to happen for us to see it? The only real solution I've found is to help build the fully agent-centric web, where there are no third parties - full P2P Protocol Cooperativism. [1] [2] [1] https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applicati... [2] http://developer.holochain.org http://developer.holochain.org
- Manfredo_1 6y ago
  Because I worked at Palantir. Can you point to sources specifically claiming that Palantir itself, not the organizations using Palantir, are accessing people's data? Because if so, this is news both to me and to a lot of other former and current Palantir employees. Palantir the company doesn't have access to the data. The government agencies have access to the data. Palantir licenses its software to these organizations. The company doesn't have special access to any sensitive data.
  - bergstromm466 6y ago
    > Because I worked at Palantir Well that's a good reason. The point I'm making is that I don't agree on Palantir's approach and strategy. If you watch the Ava Duvernay's documentary '13th' you'll see that systemic oppression of black bodies never ended. The school-to-prison pipeline guarantees exploitation and incarceration of the US's dark history of slavery and genocide. So instead of Palantir pushing for systemic change, I see their technology as regressive and focused on giving power to unjust causes. If you want to read more about how algorithms recreate bias, there's quite a lot of material that has come out recently. Here is an important point from Algorithsm of Oppression: ※ Those who have the power to design systems--classification or technical [like library, museum, & information professionals]--hold the ability to prioritize hierarchical schemes that privilege certain types of information over others.[1] There's also another book called Automating Inequality, among others. [1] https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2206336831?book_show_action=true https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2206336831?book_show_a...

Palantir builds tools for other government agencies to analyze their own data. Palantir the company doesn't see the data that Palantir the tool (Gotham or Foundry) is used to analyze.

bergstromm466 6y ago

Why do you still believe the bullshit corporate PR? Snowden, Manning, Assange... Crypto AG, Cambridge Analytica, etc. How many times does it need to happen for us to see it? The only real solution I've found is to help build the fully agent-centric web, where there are no third parties - full P2P Protocol Cooperativism. [1] [2] [1] https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applications-d2ac1e4f25ef https://medium.com/holochain/holochain-reinventing-applicati... [2] http://developer.holochain.org http://developer.holochain.org

Manfredo_1 6y ago
Because I worked at Palantir. Can you point to sources specifically claiming that Palantir itself, not the organizations using Palantir, are accessing people's data? Because if so, this is news both to me and to a lot of other former and current Palantir employees. Palantir the company doesn't have access to the data. The government agencies have access to the data. Palantir licenses its software to these organizations. The company doesn't have special access to any sensitive data.
- bergstromm466 6y ago
  > Because I worked at Palantir Well that's a good reason. The point I'm making is that I don't agree on Palantir's approach and strategy. If you watch the Ava Duvernay's documentary '13th' you'll see that systemic oppression of black bodies never ended. The school-to-prison pipeline guarantees exploitation and incarceration of the US's dark history of slavery and genocide. So instead of Palantir pushing for systemic change, I see their technology as regressive and focused on giving power to unjust causes. If you want to read more about how algorithms recreate bias, there's quite a lot of material that has come out recently. Here is an important point from Algorithsm of Oppression: ※ Those who have the power to design systems--classification or technical [like library, museum, & information professionals]--hold the ability to prioritize hierarchical schemes that privilege certain types of information over others.[1] There's also another book called Automating Inequality, among others. [1] https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2206336831?book_show_action=true https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2206336831?book_show_a...