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>Greetings from Melbourne, Victoria, currently on stage 4 lockdown because enough people are selfish and don't care (unless threatened). It's because your gove

>Greetings from Melbourne, Victoria, currently on stage 4 lockdown because enough people are selfish and don't care (unless threatened). It's because your governor adopted a stupid policy that doesn't account for human nature. How well has banning drugs and teen drinking worked to limit those? It failed completely. How could anybody in their right mind believe the same heavy-handed approach is optimal for dealing with a public health emergency? It's not the people's fault, it's the governor's fault for adopting a policy that's doomed to failure and them blaming other people when the inevitable happens. It's like designing an organisation. If it's possible for one single human failure to bring down the whole thing, if it's possible for one guy to accidentally delete the prod database, the fault doesn't lie with the guy who fucked up, it lies with the person who designed the system.

h0l0cube 6y ago
> It's because your governor adopted a stupid policy The 'Premier' of Victoria, was one of the first to move, and the policies in place were holding up. Mismanagement of the mandatory hotel quarantine system caused an outbreak just days after restrictions were being lifted across the country. Using under-trained security guards was a mis-step, but for the outbreak to happen at this crucial moment was more a failure in execution of the policy, than the policy itself. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24280156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24280156
- h0l0cube 6y ago
  I'm going to take it that the downvote was from the poster I was replying to. Without animosity, would you care to share what your disagreement is? I'm always willing to correct my beliefs, admit to any errors. A down-vote on its own does not provide me with any new information though.
  - sundvor 6y ago
    You (well, at least I) can't actually down vote immediate replies to your own comments. I wonder what our leadership would make of the book "Turn the ship around". I'm not sure how they'd go about defining responsibility - it seems to be all about passing the buck and CMA.
    - h0l0cube 6y ago
      > You (well, at least I) can't actually down vote immediate replies to your own comments. Yeah good point. Was just unusual that that comment was downvoted (twice?) long after the submission had left the front page, but not the adjacent one where I say basically the same thing. Seemed targeted. > I wonder what our leadership would make of the book "Turn the ship around". I'm not sure how they'd go about defining responsibility - it seems to be all about passing the buck and CMA. Not aware of the book, but leaders of democracies are as accountable as much as their citizenry makes them.

h0l0cube 6y ago

> It's because your governor adopted a stupid policy The 'Premier' of Victoria, was one of the first to move, and the policies in place were holding up. Mismanagement of the mandatory hotel quarantine system caused an outbreak just days after restrictions were being lifted across the country. Using under-trained security guards was a mis-step, but for the outbreak to happen at this crucial moment was more a failure in execution of the policy, than the policy itself. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24280156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24280156

h0l0cube 6y ago
I'm going to take it that the downvote was from the poster I was replying to. Without animosity, would you care to share what your disagreement is? I'm always willing to correct my beliefs, admit to any errors. A down-vote on its own does not provide me with any new information though.
- sundvor 6y ago
  You (well, at least I) can't actually down vote immediate replies to your own comments. I wonder what our leadership would make of the book "Turn the ship around". I'm not sure how they'd go about defining responsibility - it seems to be all about passing the buck and CMA.
  - h0l0cube 6y ago
    > You (well, at least I) can't actually down vote immediate replies to your own comments. Yeah good point. Was just unusual that that comment was downvoted (twice?) long after the submission had left the front page, but not the adjacent one where I say basically the same thing. Seemed targeted. > I wonder what our leadership would make of the book "Turn the ship around". I'm not sure how they'd go about defining responsibility - it seems to be all about passing the buck and CMA. Not aware of the book, but leaders of democracies are as accountable as much as their citizenry makes them.