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What's better about bottom navigator bar than top? I honestly have no idea which one is better, but after having it at the top (and all other applications seem

What's better about bottom navigator bar than top? I honestly have no idea which one is better, but after having it at the top (and all other applications seem to have their menu/nav on the top as well) for YEARS, it's a very hard sell to my muscle memory. Faster is good, disabling my extensions simply sucks. Extensions were the main reason I use firefox on mobile at all. Now I'm looking at obscure browsers like Kiwi just to get working extensions on a mobile browser.

nypar 6y ago
Hello, I have found one android browser based on Chrome that have extension (addon) support : "Kiwi Browser". https://kiwibrowser.com/ https://kiwibrowser.com/ note: Its extension store is the Google Chrome Store.
- nypar 6y ago
  Caution : the last update is from a long time ago. See also the Roadmap text at this page : https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src
pcx 6y ago
Bottom navigation bar works great for me because it's easier to use with my thumb. I think Mozilla had to choose to either wait a long time to get full extension support and miss the train, or release early. I am also unhappy with not having the extensions I use, but I think this was the right choice. They plan to support the whole extension API eventually. Also aren't they the only ones who support extensions on Mobile?
- mcherm 6y ago
  No, Mozilla did not have to choose. They could have offered both as options! They could have allowed the end consumer to control when to upgrade (some would go quickly, some would wait until their key extensions work available). I'll admit, the majority of people will upgrade only when it's the default.
  - fomine3 6y ago
    Offer both as options takes costs for development. Allow users to keep old version is insecure.
chrisandchris 6y ago
I don‘t have any issue with the bottom nav bar. But where the heck is the „back“ button? It can‘t be that hard to put a back button there...
- yorwba 6y ago
  Does your phone not come with a back button? How do you navigate "back" in Android? The lack of back button seems to be a common complaint, and I just can't understand it. EDIT: "I just can't understand it" means I'm evidently lacking information about how other people use their phones, so I'm hoping someone who does understand can explain it to me.
  - onli 6y ago
    No, you are completely right. Android has a back button in the main UI. Even better if the gesture navigation is activated. The browser does not need to copy that. But Firefox Preview had a bug where often enough the back functionality did not work. I hope that is fixed, if not that might explain some of the complaints.
  - mqus 6y ago
    I get that feeling but android does not have the full functionalities either. If you do a longpress on the backbutton in either browser on either platform, you will get your history. I don't think android has that longpress for the backbutton.
    - jackewiehose 6y ago
      Previous mobile FF on android had this functionality. They removed it with the update.
      - yorwba 6y ago
        Long-pressing the back button to get the history actually works in the Nightly version. I didn't realize that the Stable version doesn't have this feature.
mikenew 6y ago
The toolbar on the bottom is easier to reach on big phones. But also you can decide whether you want it on the top or bottom in settings so it really isn't a big deal. Losing extensions really does suck, but you can at least install a lot of the big ones like uBlock, Dark Reader etc.
- avhon1 6y ago
  You can move the URL bar to the top, but you can't move the "new tab" button to the top.
AnyTimeTraveler 6y ago
Recommendation: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid This is a fork that seems to be popular (enough to show up first in my search). It looks and feels like the Firefox I lost with 79. Firefox Sync brought most of my data back in minutes.

nypar 6y ago

Hello, I have found one android browser based on Chrome that have extension (addon) support : "Kiwi Browser". https://kiwibrowser.com/ https://kiwibrowser.com/ note: Its extension store is the Google Chrome Store.

nypar 6y ago
Caution : the last update is from a long time ago. See also the Roadmap text at this page : https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src https://github.com/kiwibrowser/src

pcx 6y ago

Bottom navigation bar works great for me because it's easier to use with my thumb. I think Mozilla had to choose to either wait a long time to get full extension support and miss the train, or release early. I am also unhappy with not having the extensions I use, but I think this was the right choice. They plan to support the whole extension API eventually. Also aren't they the only ones who support extensions on Mobile?

mcherm 6y ago
No, Mozilla did not have to choose. They could have offered both as options! They could have allowed the end consumer to control when to upgrade (some would go quickly, some would wait until their key extensions work available). I'll admit, the majority of people will upgrade only when it's the default.
- fomine3 6y ago
  Offer both as options takes costs for development. Allow users to keep old version is insecure.

chrisandchris 6y ago

I don‘t have any issue with the bottom nav bar. But where the heck is the „back“ button? It can‘t be that hard to put a back button there...

yorwba 6y ago
Does your phone not come with a back button? How do you navigate "back" in Android? The lack of back button seems to be a common complaint, and I just can't understand it. EDIT: "I just can't understand it" means I'm evidently lacking information about how other people use their phones, so I'm hoping someone who does understand can explain it to me.
- onli 6y ago
  No, you are completely right. Android has a back button in the main UI. Even better if the gesture navigation is activated. The browser does not need to copy that. But Firefox Preview had a bug where often enough the back functionality did not work. I hope that is fixed, if not that might explain some of the complaints.
- mqus 6y ago
  I get that feeling but android does not have the full functionalities either. If you do a longpress on the backbutton in either browser on either platform, you will get your history. I don't think android has that longpress for the backbutton.
  - jackewiehose 6y ago
    Previous mobile FF on android had this functionality. They removed it with the update.
    - yorwba 6y ago
      Long-pressing the back button to get the history actually works in the Nightly version. I didn't realize that the Stable version doesn't have this feature.

mikenew 6y ago

The toolbar on the bottom is easier to reach on big phones. But also you can decide whether you want it on the top or bottom in settings so it really isn't a big deal. Losing extensions really does suck, but you can at least install a lot of the big ones like uBlock, Dark Reader etc.

avhon1 6y ago
You can move the URL bar to the top, but you can't move the "new tab" button to the top.

AnyTimeTraveler 6y ago

Recommendation: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid This is a fork that seems to be popular (enough to show up first in my search). It looks and feels like the Firefox I lost with 79. Firefox Sync brought most of my data back in minutes.