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The people taking power tools to the fence weren’t provocateurs. There was an effort to remove the fence. It’s reasonable to debate whether that’s legitimate fo

by erentz 6y ago

The people taking power tools to the fence weren’t provocateurs. There was an effort to remove the fence. It’s reasonable to debate whether that’s legitimate form or protest or warrants the outsized and very violent responses we continue to see, but I think most people discussing Portland have very little grasp of the whole context of the past 90 days of continuous protests unfortunately. I also think people fail to put things in proper perspective when weighing small acts of vandalism against responses. But I agree with you Andy Ngo is not a legitimate journalist. An example of that was compile by this thread last year. https://mobile.twitter.com/respectablelaw/status/1163895246213779458 https://mobile.twitter.com/respectablelaw/status/11638952462...

GenerocUsername 6y ago
"There was an effort to remove the fence". "small acts of vandalism against responses". Rioters sawing through a fence is not a legitimate effort to remove a fence. It is destruction of property plain and simple. "Its blocking a bike lane" isn't a great excuse when the same riots are both the cause of the fence, and also blocking said bike lane.
- erentz 6y ago
  As I said it’s reasonable to debate. Personally I don’t think the fence should’ve been attacked because it gives people like yourself who are looking for an excuse to ignore the problems raised by these problems everything you need to do so. But that’s the thing about protests, they’re a large diverse group of people who have their own ideas about things. In the end after following 90 days of what’s happened in Portland including the violence against protestors from police that included them nearly killing one protestor for sport and showing up in paramilitary units abducting people. They got exactly what they wanted. Clips that will switch off your brain to the rest of the issues.
refurb 6y ago
Oh that Twitter thread seems quite unbiased. Here's the author's tagline "Exclusively practicing non-consensual redistribution of corporate wealth into the hands of working families by exploiting rules the plutocracy wrote for itself." Antifa supporter doesn't like Andy Ngo. No surprise there.
- erentz 6y ago
  So you don’t disagree with any of the claims against Andy Ngo you just want to go with adhoms. I think that proves the point.

by erentz 6y ago

GenerocUsername 6y ago

"There was an effort to remove the fence". "small acts of vandalism against responses". Rioters sawing through a fence is not a legitimate effort to remove a fence. It is destruction of property plain and simple. "Its blocking a bike lane" isn't a great excuse when the same riots are both the cause of the fence, and also blocking said bike lane.

erentz 6y ago
As I said it’s reasonable to debate. Personally I don’t think the fence should’ve been attacked because it gives people like yourself who are looking for an excuse to ignore the problems raised by these problems everything you need to do so. But that’s the thing about protests, they’re a large diverse group of people who have their own ideas about things. In the end after following 90 days of what’s happened in Portland including the violence against protestors from police that included them nearly killing one protestor for sport and showing up in paramilitary units abducting people. They got exactly what they wanted. Clips that will switch off your brain to the rest of the issues.

refurb 6y ago

Oh that Twitter thread seems quite unbiased. Here's the author's tagline "Exclusively practicing non-consensual redistribution of corporate wealth into the hands of working families by exploiting rules the plutocracy wrote for itself." Antifa supporter doesn't like Andy Ngo. No surprise there.

erentz 6y ago
So you don’t disagree with any of the claims against Andy Ngo you just want to go with adhoms. I think that proves the point.