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I think if we get to AGI full-length movie directors, they won't care if you like it or not. Humans will no longer be the target audience.

by addled 6y ago

esrauch 6y ago
Can you explain further? It seems very feasible to have AI generated media for humans as the target audience to me.
- randomdata 6y ago
  It seems feasible for us humans to make media directed for dolphins, but why?
  - stickfigure 6y ago
    We make bird baths and dog parks and cat trees and hummingbird feeders and hamster wheels... I'm sure if dolphins expressed an obvious love of cinema, somebody would make movies for them.
    - randomdata 6y ago
      > We make bird baths and dog parks and cat trees and hummingbird feeders and hamster wheels... For the entertainment of the creator. Maybe you are right that AGI will be entertained by watching humans turn into vegetables as they aimlessly watch a screen for hours at a time, but I suspect not.
      - stickfigure 6y ago
        I think you're oversimplifying human motives here. A lot of humans genuinely care about the well-being of pets and wildlife, even when they're not in sight. Look how much effort was put into reviving the California Condor. Maybe let's hope that a hypothetical AGI finds us "cute".
        randomdata 6y ago
        > Look how much effort was put into reviving the California Condor. AGI might have reason to keep us alive, sure, but why create media for us? Given our current trajectory, AGI will be very energy hungry. How will it justify using that energy for the sake of human entertainment?
  - esrauch 6y ago
    Why do humans make media directed at other humans? There's some intrinsic and extrinsic motivation that makes it so, and those conditions aren't met by making media for dolphins. I understand the hypothetical dangers of an AGI with the "wrong" reward function where "wrong" includes "like humans in terms of species-tribalism and intelligence-smugness", but I don't actually see a media generator AI necessarily having human-esque identity that you're suggesting.
goatlover 6y ago
What would be the economic incentive if humans are no longer the target? Are the AGIs going to become consumers? An even more fundamental question would be, let's say that does happen. Why would humans want that outcome? And if that's were AGI is headed in general, then isn't that good reason for revolution by the humans?

I think if we get to AGI full-length movie directors, they won't care if you like it or not. Humans will no longer be the target audience.

by addled 6y ago

I think if we get to AGI full-length movie directors, they won't care if you like it or not. Humans will no longer be the target audience.

esrauch 6y ago

Can you explain further? It seems very feasible to have AI generated media for humans as the target audience to me.

randomdata 6y ago
It seems feasible for us humans to make media directed for dolphins, but why?
- stickfigure 6y ago
  We make bird baths and dog parks and cat trees and hummingbird feeders and hamster wheels... I'm sure if dolphins expressed an obvious love of cinema, somebody would make movies for them.
  - randomdata 6y ago
    > We make bird baths and dog parks and cat trees and hummingbird feeders and hamster wheels... For the entertainment of the creator. Maybe you are right that AGI will be entertained by watching humans turn into vegetables as they aimlessly watch a screen for hours at a time, but I suspect not.
    - stickfigure 6y ago
      I think you're oversimplifying human motives here. A lot of humans genuinely care about the well-being of pets and wildlife, even when they're not in sight. Look how much effort was put into reviving the California Condor. Maybe let's hope that a hypothetical AGI finds us "cute".
      - randomdata 6y ago
        > Look how much effort was put into reviving the California Condor. AGI might have reason to keep us alive, sure, but why create media for us? Given our current trajectory, AGI will be very energy hungry. How will it justify using that energy for the sake of human entertainment?
- esrauch 6y ago
  Why do humans make media directed at other humans? There's some intrinsic and extrinsic motivation that makes it so, and those conditions aren't met by making media for dolphins. I understand the hypothetical dangers of an AGI with the "wrong" reward function where "wrong" includes "like humans in terms of species-tribalism and intelligence-smugness", but I don't actually see a media generator AI necessarily having human-esque identity that you're suggesting.

goatlover 6y ago

What would be the economic incentive if humans are no longer the target? Are the AGIs going to become consumers? An even more fundamental question would be, let's say that does happen. Why would humans want that outcome? And if that's were AGI is headed in general, then isn't that good reason for revolution by the humans?