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I mean, yeah that's fun. "Perhaps someday there won't be any violence." Cops carry guns, it's for a reason. Cops are people, not some idealized identity of jus

I mean, yeah that's fun. "Perhaps someday there won't be any violence." Cops carry guns, it's for a reason. Cops are people, not some idealized identity of justice. Perhaps it would be prudent to consider the idea that the people with guns who can legally shoot you should be treated with a little more consideration. I can't imagine turning my back on cops and reaching into my vehicle, but maybe that's white privilege. The government is legally able to take violent action. You don't want it another way. So then really, what's your point besides all cops are bad?

sneak 6y ago
> Cops carry guns, it's for a reason. I carry a gun every day too, and there is precisely zero mortal danger to anyone who peacefully interacts with me. It is an entirely reasonable expectation to demand that from government staff. The police do not have any special legal privileges when it comes to shooting people over any private citizen. To grant them such, de facto, as we have done, is to abandon the rule of law (or the equal application thereof) in society. I think a higher standard is reasonable and possible. Indeed, almost everyone in society is subject to it. Police, if they are to exist, should be as well.
- arkis22 6y ago
  >I carry a gun every day too, and there is precisely zero mortal danger to anyone who peacefully interacts with me. Well. Yeah. That's the critical part isn't it... So can cops shoot people only when you think it's ok?
  - sneak 6y ago
    The law dictates when it's okay to shoot people in self-defense. No person should receive special extra privileges to shoot people with a different standard. The police do not legally have that right; but in practice they get to murder anyone they want and get away with it. The rules for the police are very different than the rules for everyone else. That's due to inequality in the application of the law: the rules that apply to you and I do not apply to them. Perhaps you, as many do, think the police should be in a special class of their own, above the law. I think the laws should apply equally to all people.
    - arkis22 6y ago
      Right... Self Defense..! Are you uniquely capable of that? Is it difficult to be moral when everyone else isnt? SO CAN COPS ONLY SHOOT PEOPLE WHEN YOU THINK ITS OK?

sneak 6y ago

> Cops carry guns, it's for a reason. I carry a gun every day too, and there is precisely zero mortal danger to anyone who peacefully interacts with me. It is an entirely reasonable expectation to demand that from government staff. The police do not have any special legal privileges when it comes to shooting people over any private citizen. To grant them such, de facto, as we have done, is to abandon the rule of law (or the equal application thereof) in society. I think a higher standard is reasonable and possible. Indeed, almost everyone in society is subject to it. Police, if they are to exist, should be as well.

arkis22 6y ago
>I carry a gun every day too, and there is precisely zero mortal danger to anyone who peacefully interacts with me. Well. Yeah. That's the critical part isn't it... So can cops shoot people only when you think it's ok?
- sneak 6y ago
  The law dictates when it's okay to shoot people in self-defense. No person should receive special extra privileges to shoot people with a different standard. The police do not legally have that right; but in practice they get to murder anyone they want and get away with it. The rules for the police are very different than the rules for everyone else. That's due to inequality in the application of the law: the rules that apply to you and I do not apply to them. Perhaps you, as many do, think the police should be in a special class of their own, above the law. I think the laws should apply equally to all people.
  - arkis22 6y ago
    Right... Self Defense..! Are you uniquely capable of that? Is it difficult to be moral when everyone else isnt? SO CAN COPS ONLY SHOOT PEOPLE WHEN YOU THINK ITS OK?