Most people drive alone, not in groups. With traffic it's more than 3 hours. That doesn't count insurance, cost of car, wear and tear. 3 hours is ugly, though 4

Most people drive alone, not in groups. With traffic it's more than 3 hours. That doesn't count insurance, cost of car, wear and tear. 3 hours is ugly, though 4-5 would be a sweeter spot. If the tube works downtown to downtown in 45 minutes, people will pay $80 a ticket no problem. Honestly the bigger problem is that Edmonton/Calgary 'downtown' is still 'nowhere' ... you need a car when you get there, it ain't Paris or Munich. What Calgary/Edmonton needs is a fast train that connects to other, more local fast trains and commuters and light rail.