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$675 for 2250kWh of electricity? They're doing something wrong. That's 30 cents per kwh of heat. Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every
by gpm 6y ago
$675 for 2250kWh of electricity? They're doing something wrong.
That's 30 cents per kwh of heat. Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world.
But it's better than that, because that's heat not electricity. 4 watts of heat transfer for 1 watt of electricity is reasonable with a heat pump, so it's $1.20, or if you consider that co-efficient of performance (COP) is typically measured for cooling and we should be counting the electrical waste heat here a COP of 5, which makes their number $1.50 per kwh.
- Polylactic_acid 6y ago>Even if you just use resistive heating you beat that in every state, and probably most of the rest of the world. New Zealand does not have states. You are likely also confusing NZD with USD. The price listed seems entirely reasonable when you understand this.
- gpm 6y agoAh, good point. I just assumed that unqualified dollars on the internet meant "USD"...
- mdoms 6y agoGosh it's almost like different places in the world have different costs of living.
- gpm 6y agoThey do, but cost of electricity is relatively consistent because cost of production is (or at least upper bounded, some places have particularly cheap electricity because of geography). In this case the trick is that 30nzd=20usd and they didn't feel the need to clarify the currency.
- mdoms 6y agoIt's a New Zealand website on a New Zealand TLD that specifically qualifies, "for a typical Kiwi house", but you thought it wasn't clear that they would be dealing with NZ dollars?
- gpm 6y agoTo be honest: I didn't look at the domain name. I didn't look at the about us page or anything else to indicate the location. I assumed kiwi house was a style of architecture and didn't make the link with nz.
- x87678r 6y ago> 30 cents per kwh That is about right. Note in NZ includes 15% sales tax. https://www.canstarblue.co.nz/energy/electricity-providers/average-electricity-costs-per-kwh/ https://www.canstarblue.co.nz/energy/electricity-providers/a...
- jpollock 6y agoNZD $0.30 = USD$0.20 However, even that can't be compared, because in NZ, electricity charges include all distribution costs. Americans typically only look at the generator charge per kwh, ignoring transmission, lines and any daily charges. The breakdown works out approximately [1]: 30% - generator 10% - national transmission network 26% - local lines operator 20% - retailer 13% - sales tax New Zealand has split transmission, generation, retail, and the local lines operator into separate companies. There are generators without retail and at one time there were retailers without generation (I think they were all killed by the wholesale market). The government runs long-distance transmission (through a crown corporation) while local lines operators can be private. The amazing thing is that in a country of <5 million people, there are 22 retailers. [1] https://www.ena.org.nz/news-and-events/news/your-power-bill-broken-down/ https://www.ena.org.nz/news-and-events/news/your-power-bill-... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_electricity_market#:~:text=The%20retailers%20are%3A%20Contact%20Energy,Energy%2C%20Powershop%2C%20Pulse%20Energy%2C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_electricity_market...
- postingawayonhn 6y ago> The amazing thing is that in a country of <5 million people, there are 22 retailers. On one hand it's amazing bit on the other it shows a certain level of inefficiency. In my view one of NZ's biggest problems when it comes to productivity is the need to duplicate effort in so many areas.