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Posted in 2019 but all references are from 2010-2011. I assume many things have changed by now. Anyways, even at that time, why not start at Lisbon instead of
by Gys 6y ago
Posted in 2019 but all references are from 2010-2011. I assume many things have changed by now.
Anyways, even at that time, why not start at Lisbon instead of starting in Porto to go to Coimbra and add even more time and distance to the trip.
- rhn_mk1 6y agoCertainly. The trail on the map between Warsaw and Moscow doesn't follow the actual route. That one enters Belarus more to the South. Trains in the Baltic states are really irregular, so it might be faster to wait for the visa. The train between Poland and Lithuania only works on summer weekends nowadays, the train between Lithuania and Estonia goes only every 4 days due to some complication in Latvia, if it even reaches Estonia in an unbroken connection at all. Either way it's so impractical that you might as well forget that it even exists (as my fragmentary memory proves).
- jaakl 6y agoBaltic current route could be: Sat morning (weekend-only) Vilnius to Daugavpils local, to Riga local, to Valga local. Sunday morning to Tartu one modern train and then express to Tallinn. Overnight to Petersburg and finally supermodern express to Moscow by Monday noon or so.
- rhn_mk1 6y agoTo connect that to Warsaw: Friday afternoon-ish to Białystok, evening to Kaunas, then one more regular connection to Vilnius.
- eCa 6y agoOne option, if ferries are ok, is to take the Stockholm-Riga ferry. In a few years it might also be possible to travel north around the Baltic Sea uninterrupted by train to Helsinki, and then onwards.
- canada_dry 6y ago> many things have changed by now I know it's stating the obvious, but even aside from covid, China and Russia have sunk from high to almost bottom of my travel list. I would love to return to China - a few years ago I was there and loved it (and Hong Kong). But, the surveillance state and hostility towards Canada (i.e. two Cdns are currently being detained with very little of the customary consular accommodations) - makes it just too risky/unpredictable. Ditto for Russia. Hopefully a change in US leadership will help restore relations between East and West!
- barry27 6y ago"But, the surveillance state and hostility towards Canada (i.e. two Cdns are currently being detained with very little of the customary consular accommodations) - makes it just too risky/unpredictable. Ditto for Russia." This is silly.
- wdutch 6y agoI've also travelled in China and Russia in the past. I understand your concern regarding China and I have similar feelings. But I'm curious why you feel this way about Russia; have westerners been disappeared in Russia recently?
- thrwway34 6y agoPaul Whelan, Trevor Reed.
- canada_dry 6y ago> why you feel this way about Russia Putin's propaganda machine inside Russia (e.g. internal daily news) has been full-on anti-West for a while now. And so, where Russian people used to be generally positive about the West, now I believe that is somewhat diminished. What's your take?
- lazyant 6y agoYou can start in Cadiz, Spain for a longer trip than from Lisbon. Actually I don't know the rules for this "longer route" since you could go zig-zagging.