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> These financials are awful for a software business. That's cuz they're not. They are a hybrid services business that also sells "cloud computing". The are ve
by mbesto 6y ago
> These financials are awful for a software business.
That's cuz they're not. They are a hybrid services business that also sells "cloud computing". The are very comparable to Cloudera - they have a proprietary analytics platform that they then customize specifically for the workload. They then charge an implementation fees, on-going "maintenance", and a subscription fee for the "software" (which is basically a highly customized single tenant).
> Gross margin of 67%
Which is still better than IBM or any professional services firm could ever achieve from the government.
> If you add these pilot costs to COR, you'd get better numbers manufacturing furniture.
If you added S&M costs to revenue attributed to a multi-year subscription fee, you'd be called an idiot. Hence why they are probably not in there (could be wrong...we don't know for sure).
I do not like Palantir in the slightest, but this assessment is kinda off.
- stu2b50 6y agoTheir private valuation is more SaaS like, though. Revenue of 724 million, last private valuation of 20 billion, which is a 26x revenue multiplier. IBM, on the other hand, has a 2x revenue multiplier. Maybe this isn't the best metric to use, and Palantir does have better margins, but I just can't see these numbers being worth their current valuation as a services business.
- mbesto 6y ago> Maybe this isn't the best metric to use You're right. Discounted Cash Flow is.
- hendzen 6y agoCloudera... you mean the same Cloudera that has basically traded below the IPO price for years?