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Things are different, yes, but I'm not seeing any racism on the part of the school administration or school board. You are in "a high income district". You wer

by burfog 6y ago

Things are different, yes, but I'm not seeing any racism on the part of the school administration or school board. You are in "a high income district". You were in "lower income minority school district". I don't know the racial situation in your current district, though I could probably guess right. It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. The low-income people, on average, don't give a damn. Telling a parent about bad behavior will just generate a tirade of insults. Calling the police works, so that is done. It's unfair to the low-income people who aren't terrible. Well, life isn't fair. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated.

scarface74 6y ago
It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". Hint: Not only are “some of my best friends Black”, my parents, my wife, my children, and all of my family is too. Please don’t go all “woke” on me. For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. Studies show that it happens in the same district... The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Right because poor people don’t care about education. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Uhh, this isn’t new. I went to a private school growing up. By definition if they were paying to go to the school I went to, they weren’t poor. I saw myself how much different the “bad” White kids were treated than the Black kids. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated. Oh that’s all I have to tell my six foot 3 son to do! Make sure he has one of his White friends with him (he usually does) when he hangs out so police won’t wonder what he’s doing in our part of town. He was going to walk from school one night down the street to a Waffle House after a football game to meet his other classmates. His friend group is like the rainbow coalition, but this one night he wasn’t sure whether his non-Black friends were going to the game and walking down there with him. We told him if not, just take an Uber. Two Black kids walking down the street were an easy target for harassment. Not by other kids - kids aren’t as stupid as the older generation - they were worried about being harassed by the cops.
- burfog 6y ago
  I'm nearly the opposite of “woke” but I try to be nice, and that wording reminded me of this awful Biden quote: “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids” As a general rule, yes, poor people don't care about education. That's typically a contributing factor to being poor. Exceptions are common. Poor areas and poor families have a sort of cultural rot. Some have given up. Some see other things, often less honest or less productive, as an easier path to getting by in life. Some fear loss of friends if they choose a different path in life. In those areas, a kid who does well in school will be attacked by peers. So at home, the parents are not reading to kids. The parents are not asking about homework. The parents are not taking away sources of entertainment that distract from success. The parents are not bothered by a non-A grade or in a panic over a below-B grade. Instead, the parents are creating chaos. The parents are getting arrested, coming to blows while drunk or high, and cranking up the TV volume. Very often, the families are broken. Sometimes the kids don't even know their father. All sorts of non-academic nonsense is glorified. The priorities are just all wrong. That is not an environment that promotes discipline, studying, or academic success. If teachers are really treating black kids of equivalent income and wealth different from white kids, that is interesting. It's particularly interesting because teachers are among the most “woke” of all, commonly marching for BLM while accusing the MAGA crowd of being racist. In the name of BLM people have torched black neighborhoods (both business and residential) and torn down statues of people who fought against slavery, and the arrested people have included numerous teachers. Life isn't fair, so some hints for your son: wear a nice suit, speak crisp standard English, and keep the grooming strictly traditional. Basically, adopt the mannerisms of a lawyer.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Life isn't fair, so some hints for your son: wear a nice suit, speak crisp standard English, and keep the grooming strictly traditional. Basically, adopt the mannerisms of a lawyer. You did see the article I posted where Ving Rhames had five cops show up to his house pointing guns at him because they thought he was breaking into his own home? Should he have been wearing a suit in his own home? No “acting White” doesn’t keep you from getting pulled over. My (step)son grew up in the burbs all of his life. No matter how “White” he talks he will still be treated with suspicious. So he is suppose to wear a suit everywhere? Do you tell your son to wear a suit when he is going to play basketball? I know for a fact according to statistics I make more than twice the median in my county - the most affluent in the state and one of the top 25 in the country - the benefit of working for BigTech remotely while living in the south, I’m by no means rich - and yes we still get looked at suspiciously walking into our own homes. So you mean all Black people have to do is wear a suit everywhere and they won’t get harassed? You have singlehandedly solved racism, police misconduct, the disenfranchisement of minorities, racial profiling, etc in one sentence! And no, teachers come from their communities just like cops do. Do you really think they earn a degree and automatically become “woke”? So poverty couldn’t possibly be caused by systemic racism, educational funding based on property taxes, the War on Drugs that habitually punishes minorities more than Whites for the same offenses that also makes it harder to get a job.

by burfog 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". Hint: Not only are “some of my best friends Black”, my parents, my wife, my children, and all of my family is too. Please don’t go all “woke” on me. For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. Studies show that it happens in the same district... The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Right because poor people don’t care about education. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Uhh, this isn’t new. I went to a private school growing up. By definition if they were paying to go to the school I went to, they weren’t poor. I saw myself how much different the “bad” White kids were treated than the Black kids. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated. Oh that’s all I have to tell my six foot 3 son to do! Make sure he has one of his White friends with him (he usually does) when he hangs out so police won’t wonder what he’s doing in our part of town. He was going to walk from school one night down the street to a Waffle House after a football game to meet his other classmates. His friend group is like the rainbow coalition, but this one night he wasn’t sure whether his non-Black friends were going to the game and walking down there with him. We told him if not, just take an Uber. Two Black kids walking down the street were an easy target for harassment. Not by other kids - kids aren’t as stupid as the older generation - they were worried about being harassed by the cops.

burfog 6y ago
I'm nearly the opposite of “woke” but I try to be nice, and that wording reminded me of this awful Biden quote: “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids” As a general rule, yes, poor people don't care about education. That's typically a contributing factor to being poor. Exceptions are common. Poor areas and poor families have a sort of cultural rot. Some have given up. Some see other things, often less honest or less productive, as an easier path to getting by in life. Some fear loss of friends if they choose a different path in life. In those areas, a kid who does well in school will be attacked by peers. So at home, the parents are not reading to kids. The parents are not asking about homework. The parents are not taking away sources of entertainment that distract from success. The parents are not bothered by a non-A grade or in a panic over a below-B grade. Instead, the parents are creating chaos. The parents are getting arrested, coming to blows while drunk or high, and cranking up the TV volume. Very often, the families are broken. Sometimes the kids don't even know their father. All sorts of non-academic nonsense is glorified. The priorities are just all wrong. That is not an environment that promotes discipline, studying, or academic success. If teachers are really treating black kids of equivalent income and wealth different from white kids, that is interesting. It's particularly interesting because teachers are among the most “woke” of all, commonly marching for BLM while accusing the MAGA crowd of being racist. In the name of BLM people have torched black neighborhoods (both business and residential) and torn down statues of people who fought against slavery, and the arrested people have included numerous teachers. Life isn't fair, so some hints for your son: wear a nice suit, speak crisp standard English, and keep the grooming strictly traditional. Basically, adopt the mannerisms of a lawyer.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Life isn't fair, so some hints for your son: wear a nice suit, speak crisp standard English, and keep the grooming strictly traditional. Basically, adopt the mannerisms of a lawyer. You did see the article I posted where Ving Rhames had five cops show up to his house pointing guns at him because they thought he was breaking into his own home? Should he have been wearing a suit in his own home? No “acting White” doesn’t keep you from getting pulled over. My (step)son grew up in the burbs all of his life. No matter how “White” he talks he will still be treated with suspicious. So he is suppose to wear a suit everywhere? Do you tell your son to wear a suit when he is going to play basketball? I know for a fact according to statistics I make more than twice the median in my county - the most affluent in the state and one of the top 25 in the country - the benefit of working for BigTech remotely while living in the south, I’m by no means rich - and yes we still get looked at suspiciously walking into our own homes. So you mean all Black people have to do is wear a suit everywhere and they won’t get harassed? You have singlehandedly solved racism, police misconduct, the disenfranchisement of minorities, racial profiling, etc in one sentence! And no, teachers come from their communities just like cops do. Do you really think they earn a degree and automatically become “woke”? So poverty couldn’t possibly be caused by systemic racism, educational funding based on property taxes, the War on Drugs that habitually punishes minorities more than Whites for the same offenses that also makes it harder to get a job.