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So you're just going to ignore that Congress made them unprofitable in 2006 by requiring them to do something no private business has to do? Are you going to d

So you're just going to ignore that Congress made them unprofitable in 2006 by requiring them to do something no private business has to do? Are you going to deny they were profitable before then? You say they're horribly mismanaged and only exist to create bureaucracy. You ignore facts and reality. It seems like you've made up your mind and you won't have reality interject. I pity you and your warped mindset.

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Alupis 6y ago
Look, either USPS is a "Public Service" and it doesn't matter how far into the red they run, or... thy're a business and it does matter, a lot. If they're a "Public Service", then let's stop these emergency bailouts every few years and just fund the darn thing properly. If they're a business, then we need to stop bailing them out and force them to work with what they have, or let people go that are not pulling their weight. After all, their private-business competition has managed to do just this. Either way, pretending this is some new emergency is disingenuous. USPS has been on fire for decades, that is a fact, paper-profits or not. It's about how they operate, at the core. The pension requirement is two-fold. First, to guarantee postal employees they will have a retirement waiting for them, regardless of who the current administration is or what the political tides bring tomorrow. That's huge. The second part is it makes hiring new people quite expensive. That discourages hiring instead of working with the people they already have (~470,000[1]!!!!). It's no secret it's hard to be fired from government jobs, and no secret USPS is the same in that regard. There's likely a massive amount of bloat within USPS that would better be cut than preserved. That alone, chopping dead weight, could help free USPS up from it's current predicament. I'm floored that we have so many people staunchly defending status quo with USPS today. A year ago, we would all be railing about how inefficient USPS is, blah blah blah. But, politics blinds everyone in turn. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#:~:text=The%20USPS%2C%20as%20of%202019,and%20136%2C174%20non%2Dcareer%20employees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#:....

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Alupis 6y ago

Look, either USPS is a "Public Service" and it doesn't matter how far into the red they run, or... thy're a business and it does matter, a lot. If they're a "Public Service", then let's stop these emergency bailouts every few years and just fund the darn thing properly. If they're a business, then we need to stop bailing them out and force them to work with what they have, or let people go that are not pulling their weight. After all, their private-business competition has managed to do just this. Either way, pretending this is some new emergency is disingenuous. USPS has been on fire for decades, that is a fact, paper-profits or not. It's about how they operate, at the core. The pension requirement is two-fold. First, to guarantee postal employees they will have a retirement waiting for them, regardless of who the current administration is or what the political tides bring tomorrow. That's huge. The second part is it makes hiring new people quite expensive. That discourages hiring instead of working with the people they already have (~470,000[1]!!!!). It's no secret it's hard to be fired from government jobs, and no secret USPS is the same in that regard. There's likely a massive amount of bloat within USPS that would better be cut than preserved. That alone, chopping dead weight, could help free USPS up from it's current predicament. I'm floored that we have so many people staunchly defending status quo with USPS today. A year ago, we would all be railing about how inefficient USPS is, blah blah blah. But, politics blinds everyone in turn. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#:~:text=The%20USPS%2C%20as%20of%202019,and%20136%2C174%20non%2Dcareer%20employees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service#:....