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They probably should have thought about that before they purposely violated their developer agreements...

by dkonofalski 6y ago

saagarjha 6y ago
One might say you have the duty to violate illegal developer agreements.
- dkonofalski 6y ago
  Others might say that they're not illegal and/or that you have a duty not to enter into them in the first place.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    > they're not illegal We'll see! Until then, revoking certificates is retaliation. > you have a duty not to enter into them in the first place This isn't how contract law works.
    - dkonofalski 6y ago
      >you have the duty to violate illegal developer agreements. Neither is this if you're admitting the legality hasn't been determined.
      - penagwin 6y ago
        You're saying that they breached their contract - he's just saying that the contract may not have been valid in the first place, thus it cannot be enforced/breached. We don't know if their contract was valid, that's up to the court(thats why this article is here).
        nodamage 6y ago
        The term in the contract they breached (not sneaking hidden code past app review) is not the same as the term they are contending is illegal though.
        47r6rueu3u 6y ago
        It's still an incredibly asanine point for a general discussion because it's true of almost any contract. It's ajin to people who constantly use phrases like "in my opinion" in general conversations, it's already implied by context.
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Dahoon 6y ago
One can agree with one side or the other but this is nothing short of Apple using its dominant position to try and hurt Epic because they got mad. It has nothing to do with kicking someone out for breach of the app store rules. Fortnight and Epic's Unreal engine are two entirely different legal entities. As you could have read in the ruling.
- dkonofalski 6y ago
  And, as you could have read in the ruling, Apple didn't do anything to the other developer account. They merely sent an email response saying that continued action on Epic's part could result in them terminating their contracts and support. So, you're wrong. It has 100% everything to do with kicking someone out for breach of the App Store rules.

They probably should have thought about that before they purposely violated their developer agreements...

saagarjha 6y ago

One might say you have the duty to violate illegal developer agreements.

dkonofalski 6y ago
Others might say that they're not illegal and/or that you have a duty not to enter into them in the first place.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  > they're not illegal We'll see! Until then, revoking certificates is retaliation. > you have a duty not to enter into them in the first place This isn't how contract law works.
  - dkonofalski 6y ago
    >you have the duty to violate illegal developer agreements. Neither is this if you're admitting the legality hasn't been determined.
    - penagwin 6y ago
      You're saying that they breached their contract - he's just saying that the contract may not have been valid in the first place, thus it cannot be enforced/breached. We don't know if their contract was valid, that's up to the court(thats why this article is here).
      - nodamage 6y ago
        The term in the contract they breached (not sneaking hidden code past app review) is not the same as the term they are contending is illegal though.
      - 47r6rueu3u 6y ago
        It's still an incredibly asanine point for a general discussion because it's true of almost any contract. It's ajin to people who constantly use phrases like "in my opinion" in general conversations, it's already implied by context.
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Dahoon 6y ago

One can agree with one side or the other but this is nothing short of Apple using its dominant position to try and hurt Epic because they got mad. It has nothing to do with kicking someone out for breach of the app store rules. Fortnight and Epic's Unreal engine are two entirely different legal entities. As you could have read in the ruling.

dkonofalski 6y ago
And, as you could have read in the ruling, Apple didn't do anything to the other developer account. They merely sent an email response saying that continued action on Epic's part could result in them terminating their contracts and support. So, you're wrong. It has 100% everything to do with kicking someone out for breach of the App Store rules.