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> If so, why don't they loudly advertise the data collection and do it only with opt-in? But they do. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg70ojfWXnk https://m.yout

> If so, why don't they loudly advertise the data collection and do it only with opt-in? But they do. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg70ojfWXnk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg70ojfWXnk

neiman 6y ago
The video is about synch, while the conversation is about "collection does lead to better products" -> i.e, analytics.
- rumanator 6y ago
  What do you believe syncing means? This discussion talks about whispersync reporting last page read and most recent page read events. What do you think that's supposed to do?
  - neiman 6y ago
    Syncing and analytics are not identical, sorry.
    - rumanator 6y ago
      You're the only one fabricating accusations about "analysing" in a discussion about how Kindles send data with whispersync, a system widely known to be used to sync data across devices. More importantly, the only usecase mentioned in the discussion that resembles anything like analysis is synching page reads across devices, and tracking reading progress to compensate authors who make their books available through subscription services. Either you know stuff about "analysing" that for some reason you're keeping a secret, or you're talking nonsense about stuff you have no grasp over.
      - neiman 6y ago
        Please read the message beginning this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24271258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24271258 It's written there: > "most of what's mentioned in this article are metrics used to understand how the features are used (bookmarks, highlights, dictionnary, etc.), how much they are used, and in which country." Besides, I don't appreciate phrases like "fabricating accusations" or "you're talking nonsense about stuff you have no grasp over". I'm may be wrong, it happens often, but even if I am this aggressive tone is not in place. You can point out my mistakes politely if they exist, same way as I do with yours.

> If so, why don't they loudly advertise the data collection and do it only with opt-in? But they do. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg70ojfWXnk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yg70ojfWXnk

neiman 6y ago

The video is about synch, while the conversation is about "collection does lead to better products" -> i.e, analytics.

rumanator 6y ago
What do you believe syncing means? This discussion talks about whispersync reporting last page read and most recent page read events. What do you think that's supposed to do?
- neiman 6y ago
  Syncing and analytics are not identical, sorry.
  - rumanator 6y ago
    You're the only one fabricating accusations about "analysing" in a discussion about how Kindles send data with whispersync, a system widely known to be used to sync data across devices. More importantly, the only usecase mentioned in the discussion that resembles anything like analysis is synching page reads across devices, and tracking reading progress to compensate authors who make their books available through subscription services. Either you know stuff about "analysing" that for some reason you're keeping a secret, or you're talking nonsense about stuff you have no grasp over.
    - neiman 6y ago
      Please read the message beginning this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24271258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24271258 It's written there: > "most of what's mentioned in this article are metrics used to understand how the features are used (bookmarks, highlights, dictionnary, etc.), how much they are used, and in which country." Besides, I don't appreciate phrases like "fabricating accusations" or "you're talking nonsense about stuff you have no grasp over". I'm may be wrong, it happens often, but even if I am this aggressive tone is not in place. You can point out my mistakes politely if they exist, same way as I do with yours.