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It breaks my heart to say this, but I agree completely on the 'shitshow'. I've been using FF as my main driver for over ten years, and on mobile every second I

It breaks my heart to say this, but I agree completely on the 'shitshow'. I've been using FF as my main driver for over ten years, and on mobile every second I've been able to. I fail to come up with a thing they didn't ruin with this new "revamp everything". - The home page is worse - THEY BROKE THE BACK BUTTON.Like seriously, you could get your tab's history and jump back more than one page. Now the long-press does nothing - Oh, breaking the back button doesn't end there. Previously you could close your current tab with Back, and FF would either close the tab or go to the FF start screen. Now, all the tabs are left open, and I have to go manually to my tabs list and close them one by one. Why? - probably something else. Or maybe I'm just too angry at my Ol' reliable workhorse so suddenly cheating on me :( Edit: - It's also slower than ever, I've never had any qualms about FF for Androids speed until now.

person808 6y ago
The tab history should be back in version 80
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
> THEY BROKE THE BACK BUTTON. This is Google's fault for breaking enhanced back functionality with gesture navigation. Native Android 10 phones can't enable the two button pill nav either so your only choice is the soon to be obsolete three button nav.
the_pwner224 6y ago
One more thing: you can't get a desktop-style tab bar on top anymore, instead you are forced to use the tab button to open the view with all your tabs on it. Previously you could go to Android Settings => Developer Options and increase 'Minimum width' / 'Smallest width' which would make the phone think its screen was physically bigger, making it so that the Android UI elements were no longer hilariously large and making Firefox switch to the tablet view with the tab bar, well before the point where the UI got too small to use/read. I figure it'll be a number of years before Android updates make FF 68.x stop working, and while security updates do happen I doubt any of the websites visited by the types of people on HN are going to be compromised and running exploits for old Android FF versions. Plus you have the Android permissions/sandboxing stuff.
chrismorgan 6y ago
Slower than ever? I don’t use a browser on my phone all that much, but I’ve used Nightly on my phone for ages, and tried out Fenix as soon as it supported uBlock Origin. I found it very substantially faster on JS-heavy pages, e.g. the Reddit mobile site was almost twice as fast, across the board, and faster still in places. (I use Firefox for Android for ideological reasons and because it supports extensions, not because it’s fast, because it hasn’t been in the past. I have no idea how it compares to other browsers now, because I never run any other browsers on Android.)

person808 6y ago

The tab history should be back in version 80

kevin_thibedeau 6y ago

> THEY BROKE THE BACK BUTTON. This is Google's fault for breaking enhanced back functionality with gesture navigation. Native Android 10 phones can't enable the two button pill nav either so your only choice is the soon to be obsolete three button nav.

the_pwner224 6y ago

One more thing: you can't get a desktop-style tab bar on top anymore, instead you are forced to use the tab button to open the view with all your tabs on it. Previously you could go to Android Settings => Developer Options and increase 'Minimum width' / 'Smallest width' which would make the phone think its screen was physically bigger, making it so that the Android UI elements were no longer hilariously large and making Firefox switch to the tablet view with the tab bar, well before the point where the UI got too small to use/read. I figure it'll be a number of years before Android updates make FF 68.x stop working, and while security updates do happen I doubt any of the websites visited by the types of people on HN are going to be compromised and running exploits for old Android FF versions. Plus you have the Android permissions/sandboxing stuff.

chrismorgan 6y ago

Slower than ever? I don’t use a browser on my phone all that much, but I’ve used Nightly on my phone for ages, and tried out Fenix as soon as it supported uBlock Origin. I found it very substantially faster on JS-heavy pages, e.g. the Reddit mobile site was almost twice as fast, across the board, and faster still in places. (I use Firefox for Android for ideological reasons and because it supports extensions, not because it’s fast, because it hasn’t been in the past. I have no idea how it compares to other browsers now, because I never run any other browsers on Android.)