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Oh, don't be patronising. We'll see how the case pans out. I think Apple is in enough danger that aggravating the situation is a bad idea. https://twitter.com/

Oh, don't be patronising. We'll see how the case pans out. I think Apple is in enough danger that aggravating the situation is a bad idea. https://twitter.com/EskilSteenberg/status/1297520275790139394 https://twitter.com/EskilSteenberg/status/129752027579013939...

parasubvert 6y ago
Per that analysis, there are massive differences vs the Microsoft case. - safari is a minority marketshare browser and already existed when iOS was created; Windows already had its marketshare dominance before the browser was invented - Portable music also pre-existed before iOS. iPhone and Android were laughing stocks in 2008. To say these points are anticompetitive would require proving they achieved their marketshare by parlaying their existing dominance into a new market, and it’s not clear that happened, especially given the thriving of alternatives like Chrome, Spotify, Tidal, etc. There is also a bunch of not-actually-anticompetitive points - charging developers for use of the platform - disallowing competitive tools - controlling platform access altogether All of the above would imply the game console makers like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft have been anticompetitive for decades. It’s not likely. The crux to me is if there is a “right to a market“ for otherwise vertically integrated components. Just beside their was a market in he past for those things, doesn’t mean they need to be enshrined in laws. It would be akin to declaring game platforms or mobile platforms as public utilities so that ISVs in other adjacent platform markets can legally force the extension of their business model on other ecosystems. It’s been done with power generation/distribution, alcohol brewing/distribution/sales, and car manufacturing/sales/service. But those had massive unintended consequences. There is one area where there may be a clear legitimate issue: Abuse of private APIs. But it would have to be proven.
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parasubvert 6y ago

Per that analysis, there are massive differences vs the Microsoft case. - safari is a minority marketshare browser and already existed when iOS was created; Windows already had its marketshare dominance before the browser was invented - Portable music also pre-existed before iOS. iPhone and Android were laughing stocks in 2008. To say these points are anticompetitive would require proving they achieved their marketshare by parlaying their existing dominance into a new market, and it’s not clear that happened, especially given the thriving of alternatives like Chrome, Spotify, Tidal, etc. There is also a bunch of not-actually-anticompetitive points - charging developers for use of the platform - disallowing competitive tools - controlling platform access altogether All of the above would imply the game console makers like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft have been anticompetitive for decades. It’s not likely. The crux to me is if there is a “right to a market“ for otherwise vertically integrated components. Just beside their was a market in he past for those things, doesn’t mean they need to be enshrined in laws. It would be akin to declaring game platforms or mobile platforms as public utilities so that ISVs in other adjacent platform markets can legally force the extension of their business model on other ecosystems. It’s been done with power generation/distribution, alcohol brewing/distribution/sales, and car manufacturing/sales/service. But those had massive unintended consequences. There is one area where there may be a clear legitimate issue: Abuse of private APIs. But it would have to be proven.

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