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I used to think open plan offices were full of noisy distractions. Now I yearn for the relative peace of a child-free zone. I'll miss the 4pm beers and sneaky t

I used to think open plan offices were full of noisy distractions. Now I yearn for the relative peace of a child-free zone. I'll miss the 4pm beers and sneaky trips to the beach though.

wutbrodo 6y ago
Fwiw, this isn't that tied to remote work IME: I've had 4PM beers occasionally at every tech job I've ever had. I'd usually do it while working, but at one it would always sparked a casual impromptu happy hour, which was also pretty fun.
sushshshsh 6y ago
Imagine forcing everyone back to the office because you had kids and they're wearing you out
- ISL 6y ago
  As someone who doesn't have kids, I sympathize. One should recognize, on the flip side, that civilization doesn't keep going without kids :)!
- renewiltord 6y ago
  What a strange way for you to engage with people.
- scubbo 6y ago
  You are projecting a lot, friend. Take a breath, step away, and relax before re-engaging. No-one in this thread appears (to me) to be discussing forcing anyone back into the office. They're saying that they are looking forward to the time when it is safe for them, personally, to return to the office - and look forward to others joining them when they feel safe.
sologoub 6y ago
Childcare (and other “cares”) are being conflated with remote work. Remote work is still work - when you are forced to also handle childcare, you are basically working two jobs, at the same time. No wonder that’s at very least suboptimal. Long term, I really hope we arrive at a scenario where people can focus on one job at a time and choose the most productive environment for them/their team. The narrative that remote work == work + childcare is just false though. Current pandemic situation is not normal in any sense and the loss of general services is very painful for everyone.
- x87678r 6y ago
  > remote work == work + childcare is just false Have you tried it yourself? Technically you're correct, in reality just being in the house means you can be available.
  - sologoub 6y ago
    That’s just it, it doesn’t. To compare apples to apples between office and wfh, there has to be child care arranged and it can’t be the same person as the one working. You usually don’t take kids into the office. Work is still work, regardless of location. The current situation with child care effectively closed has created the situation where you have to do both work and care for the kids. If you move that same situation into the office, it’s not going to be pretty.

I used to think open plan offices were full of noisy distractions. Now I yearn for the relative peace of a child-free zone. I'll miss the 4pm beers and sneaky trips to the beach though.

wutbrodo 6y ago

Fwiw, this isn't that tied to remote work IME: I've had 4PM beers occasionally at every tech job I've ever had. I'd usually do it while working, but at one it would always sparked a casual impromptu happy hour, which was also pretty fun.

sushshshsh 6y ago

Imagine forcing everyone back to the office because you had kids and they're wearing you out

ISL 6y ago
As someone who doesn't have kids, I sympathize. One should recognize, on the flip side, that civilization doesn't keep going without kids :)!
renewiltord 6y ago
What a strange way for you to engage with people.
scubbo 6y ago
You are projecting a lot, friend. Take a breath, step away, and relax before re-engaging. No-one in this thread appears (to me) to be discussing forcing anyone back into the office. They're saying that they are looking forward to the time when it is safe for them, personally, to return to the office - and look forward to others joining them when they feel safe.

sologoub 6y ago

Childcare (and other “cares”) are being conflated with remote work. Remote work is still work - when you are forced to also handle childcare, you are basically working two jobs, at the same time. No wonder that’s at very least suboptimal. Long term, I really hope we arrive at a scenario where people can focus on one job at a time and choose the most productive environment for them/their team. The narrative that remote work == work + childcare is just false though. Current pandemic situation is not normal in any sense and the loss of general services is very painful for everyone.

x87678r 6y ago
> remote work == work + childcare is just false Have you tried it yourself? Technically you're correct, in reality just being in the house means you can be available.
- sologoub 6y ago
  That’s just it, it doesn’t. To compare apples to apples between office and wfh, there has to be child care arranged and it can’t be the same person as the one working. You usually don’t take kids into the office. Work is still work, regardless of location. The current situation with child care effectively closed has created the situation where you have to do both work and care for the kids. If you move that same situation into the office, it’s not going to be pretty.