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It's frustrating that such an obvious solution to this problem exists. Logging will create jobs, stimulate the economies of rural towns, help the forest ecolog

by blhack 6y ago

It's frustrating that such an obvious solution to this problem exists. Logging will create jobs, stimulate the economies of rural towns, help the forest ecology. Imagine this: what if we could create a biomachine that pulls CO2 out of the air and turns into carbon bricks. Now imagine that we not only have this biomachine but we have a use for all of these bricks. People want them really badly. So there is a huge incentive to speed up the process of pulling the CO2 out of the air. We have that. The biomachines are trees, the bricks are wood, and the industry is logging. Why people who claim to care about the environment are opposed to it is baffling.

danans 6y ago
> Logging will create jobs, stimulate the economies of rural towns, help the forest ecology. The types of plant growth that significantly increase wildfire risk significantly (by providing kindling) are not the big profitable trees, but rather the low growing brush and low diameter trees, for which there isn't much of a market (although Sierra Pacific Co. in CA is trying to turn those in to particle board). Also, the forestry industry is very mechanized, and doesn't rely on a lot of human labor compared to the past. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/29/642955787/will-more-logging-save-western-forests-from-wildfires https://www.npr.org/2018/08/29/642955787/will-more-logging-s...
- blhack 6y ago
  One of the ways that the USFS will negotiate with the loggers is essentially to require them to do forest management in the areas that they are logging.
- maerF0x0 6y ago
  To be clear your article is mostly about clear cutting and I'm talking about thinning. One of the steps to those big profitable trees is thinning and selectively keeping the best tree(s) for later. The interim products are lower value, but giving the industry a promise of the best logs allows them the finances to deal with the less valuable interims.

by blhack 6y ago

danans 6y ago

> Logging will create jobs, stimulate the economies of rural towns, help the forest ecology. The types of plant growth that significantly increase wildfire risk significantly (by providing kindling) are not the big profitable trees, but rather the low growing brush and low diameter trees, for which there isn't much of a market (although Sierra Pacific Co. in CA is trying to turn those in to particle board). Also, the forestry industry is very mechanized, and doesn't rely on a lot of human labor compared to the past. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/29/642955787/will-more-logging-save-western-forests-from-wildfires https://www.npr.org/2018/08/29/642955787/will-more-logging-s...

blhack 6y ago
One of the ways that the USFS will negotiate with the loggers is essentially to require them to do forest management in the areas that they are logging.
maerF0x0 6y ago
To be clear your article is mostly about clear cutting and I'm talking about thinning. One of the steps to those big profitable trees is thinning and selectively keeping the best tree(s) for later. The interim products are lower value, but giving the industry a promise of the best logs allows them the finances to deal with the less valuable interims.