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As many people here have echoed - this boils down to the fact the data is being captured without an opt out. I don't doubt the developers are using it for 'mor

As many people here have echoed - this boils down to the fact the data is being captured without an opt out. I don't doubt the developers are using it for 'morally acceptable' purposes, but I don't trust Amazon not to abuse that data later down the line! I really don't feel that anyone needs to know precisely what pages I have viewed in a specific book.

mc32 6y ago
Agree. Opt out at the minimum. How did software and features ever get done before telemetry? Efficiency is not always the best humanistic approach. So maybe they support unused features and maybe they let some features wither that lots of people like. Maybe it would make things cost a little more. I think people would be ok with some of those inefficiencies.
- ksk 6y ago
  >How did software and features ever get done before telemetry? IMHO, The software today is miles better at UX.
  - breakfastduck 6y ago
    Is that because of telemetry or just the field developing naturally, though?
    - ksk 6y ago
      No, I don't think its just due to telemetry, I think its a combination of multiple factors as you suggested.
andrewmutz 6y ago
That data allows users to pick up where they left off as they change devices. I rely on that regularly as I use both my phone and a Kindle device to read books.
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  So you should turn those features on. It doesn't mean I should have to tolerate it by default.
paulcole 6y ago
The opt out is don't buy a Kindle.
falcolas 6y ago
The kindle e-readers do offer an opt-out from the metrics collection. It can be triggered from the website or the device itself. That it's an opt-out and not opt-in is not a good thing, but it can be opted out of on the e-readers.
- gavreh 6y ago
  What are the steps to do this?
  - xena 6y ago
    On my kindle Oasis: - Go to the homescreen - Open the hamburger menu - Tap settings - Device Options - Advanced Options - Privacy - Disable
  - ptman 6y ago
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/mycd/digital-console/deviceprivacycentre/ https://www.amazon.com/hz/mycd/digital-console/deviceprivacy... ?
    - zxcb1 6y ago
      Does not work, can you point to a tutorial? And does this include the Kindle app?
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  OK well that's something. An opt-in would be preferred but that's much better than nothing. Is it confirmed though that these network requests definitely stop after that is switched?
PeterStuer 6y ago
At least for EU citizens the GDPR requires this to be an opt-in, with the option to decline without service degradation.

mc32 6y ago

Agree. Opt out at the minimum. How did software and features ever get done before telemetry? Efficiency is not always the best humanistic approach. So maybe they support unused features and maybe they let some features wither that lots of people like. Maybe it would make things cost a little more. I think people would be ok with some of those inefficiencies.

ksk 6y ago
>How did software and features ever get done before telemetry? IMHO, The software today is miles better at UX.
- breakfastduck 6y ago
  Is that because of telemetry or just the field developing naturally, though?
  - ksk 6y ago
    No, I don't think its just due to telemetry, I think its a combination of multiple factors as you suggested.

andrewmutz 6y ago

That data allows users to pick up where they left off as they change devices. I rely on that regularly as I use both my phone and a Kindle device to read books.

breakfastduck 6y ago
So you should turn those features on. It doesn't mean I should have to tolerate it by default.

paulcole 6y ago

The opt out is don't buy a Kindle.

falcolas 6y ago

The kindle e-readers do offer an opt-out from the metrics collection. It can be triggered from the website or the device itself. That it's an opt-out and not opt-in is not a good thing, but it can be opted out of on the e-readers.

gavreh 6y ago
What are the steps to do this?
- xena 6y ago
  On my kindle Oasis: - Go to the homescreen - Open the hamburger menu - Tap settings - Device Options - Advanced Options - Privacy - Disable
- ptman 6y ago
  https://www.amazon.com/hz/mycd/digital-console/deviceprivacycentre/ https://www.amazon.com/hz/mycd/digital-console/deviceprivacy... ?
  - zxcb1 6y ago
    Does not work, can you point to a tutorial? And does this include the Kindle app?
breakfastduck 6y ago
OK well that's something. An opt-in would be preferred but that's much better than nothing. Is it confirmed though that these network requests definitely stop after that is switched?

PeterStuer 6y ago

At least for EU citizens the GDPR requires this to be an opt-in, with the option to decline without service degradation.