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I'm not a music fan but if I were I absolutely will go. The risk are minimal. The virus spread easily but not that dangerous. In fact I've been living my life a
by matz1 6y ago
I'm not a music fan but if I were I absolutely will go. The risk are minimal. The virus spread easily but not that dangerous. In fact I've been living my life as normal as I could possibly do all these times.
- dboreham 6y agoThe issue isn't the risk to yourself, which is minimal. The problem is that spreading the virus widely (which seems easy to do at crowded events, precise transmission model not yet known) ultimately results in a bunch of other people somewhere in the future ending up in hospital or dead.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y agoHow many people have you killed if you were ever infected with flu or some other airborne virus? This thinking is absurd.
- rorykoehler 6y agoA champions league game was the source of a major spike in both Italy and Spain and ended up killing thousands.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y agoBy that logic, China killed a million ppl?
- rorykoehler 6y agoI expect more intellectual honesty and curiosity on this site tbh. Please don’t purposely reduce the quality of the experience here. Some context >The match is being called "Game Zero" because it was played just two days before the first positive case of COVID-19 was confirmed in Italy. The head of pulmonology at a Bergamo hospital, which is outside of Milan and the usual home of Atalanta, recently described the Champions League match as "a biological bomb." There were also about 2,500 Valencia fans in the stands for the match, and 35 percent of Valencia's team tested positive for the coronavirus a few weeks later. >Bergamo Mayor Giorgio Gori echoed that statement. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-champions-league-match-contributed-to-italys-covid-19-outbreak/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-cham... More sources. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfinal-Hinspiel_Atalanta_Bergamo_–_FC_Valencia_2020 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfi...
- gnusty_gnurc 6y agoSo a mayor and head of pulmonology offered qualitative descriptions of something that's ultimately a matter of epidemiology and data collection? I'm having a hard time with these articles that take quotes with extreme language and pass it off as definitive evidence of reality. Anyone can call something a "biological bomb" - where's the studies?
- matz1 6y agoI understand that, that is the case with any infections diseases but covid death rate are very low. Most people are either asymptomatic or only have mild symptoms. Do you drive personal vehicle at all ? However safe you are you have non zero chance to kill other people somewhere in the future.
- rorykoehler 6y agoIf you kill someone in a car crash they don’t go on to kill 5 more people in another car crash.
- matz1 6y agoHow do you come up with this number?
- rorykoehler 6y agoCar crashes don't have viral properties. Better?
- matz1 6y agoIt doesn't but still have non zero chance to kill other people.
- gridlockd 6y agoWe have accepted this risk with infectious diseases for the longest time. What has changed?
- lagadu 6y agoInfectious diseases are older than humanity. Hell, bad years of flu killed more than covid yet we didn't cancel any types of events. Some people dying to contagious diseases is something our species has always coexisted with. Neither the flu, nor dengue nor covid are ever going to go away.