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Would you yourself go to a concert at this time?

by spinach 6y ago

haunter 6y ago
In Germany? Yes. In the US? Absolutely not. I'm in Hungary and was at a jazz concert myself this weekend
- Eldt 6y ago
  What do you think your chances of catching and spreading the virus are?
vanilla-almond 6y ago
Would you yourself go to a concert at this time? This socially-distanced outdoor concert in Newcastle (in the UK) doesn't seem too bad. Everyone has their own 'pod'. However, it's not suitable for indoor concerts and the extra logistics might make it too impractical even for outdoor concerts. Pic of the setup: https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_1100,c_fill,g_auto,h_619,ar_16:9/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F200813074413-restricted-01-social-distanced-music-festival-intl-scli-0811.jpg https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_1100,c_fill,g_aut... Here's a write-up of what it was like to attend: This is what it was like to attend the UK’s first ever socially distanced gig: https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/14/this-is-what-it-was-like-to-attend-the-uks-first-ever-socially-distanced-concert-171256 https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/14/this-is-what-it-was-like-to...
tbronchain 6y ago
Definitely. Wear a mask, wash your hands, try to keep some sort of distance with people, don't go if you feel sick and try taking care of your immune system as much as you can before/after. Expect people having some sort of respect and do the same. Outdoor events would be a much bigger yes compared to indoor (note: concerts doesn't mean stacked onto each other's). Of course, tests must be ubiquitous and this shouldn't happen while in an area having a peak of the epidemy. Restricting contacts with fragile people would also be wise. I've been to hundreds of concerts/events and rarely been sick after one. Risks to catch a disease are in my opinion not higher than public transports or a crowded beach and probably lower than bars in general. We need to stop this non-sense.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  There's something innate about shaming people who do different things. People are feeding off of panic and constant dread. If you don't affirm their apocalypse delusions you'll be shamed. You'll be told attending a concert or even wanting to is a sign you're a selfish misanthrope and idiot. They could just indefinitely stay locked in their home if they feel the risk is that grave...but no, they'll stop at nothing to extend their agoraphobia to everyone.
- patrickk 6y ago
  > don't go if you feel sick Sadly, selfish people will abuse this. They'll go even if they feel sick, likely justifying it as "but I already bought my ticket". Asymptomatic people will also increase the risk. > Of course, tests must be ubiquitous and this shouldn't happen while in an area having a peak of the epidemy. Anecdotally, a doctor I went to recently told me that the standard swab test is likely to be ruled invalid in the near future, he referenced a study that should be published soon. So, we will be flying blind if large (indoor) events re-open.
matz1 6y ago
I'm not a music fan but if I were I absolutely will go. The risk are minimal. The virus spread easily but not that dangerous. In fact I've been living my life as normal as I could possibly do all these times.
- dboreham 6y ago
  The issue isn't the risk to yourself, which is minimal. The problem is that spreading the virus widely (which seems easy to do at crowded events, precise transmission model not yet known) ultimately results in a bunch of other people somewhere in the future ending up in hospital or dead.
  - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
    How many people have you killed if you were ever infected with flu or some other airborne virus? This thinking is absurd.
    - rorykoehler 6y ago
      A champions league game was the source of a major spike in both Italy and Spain and ended up killing thousands.
      - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
        By that logic, China killed a million ppl?
        rorykoehler 6y ago
        I expect more intellectual honesty and curiosity on this site tbh. Please don’t purposely reduce the quality of the experience here. Some context >The match is being called "Game Zero" because it was played just two days before the first positive case of COVID-19 was confirmed in Italy. The head of pulmonology at a Bergamo hospital, which is outside of Milan and the usual home of Atalanta, recently described the Champions League match as "a biological bomb." There were also about 2,500 Valencia fans in the stands for the match, and 35 percent of Valencia's team tested positive for the coronavirus a few weeks later. >Bergamo Mayor Giorgio Gori echoed that statement. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-champions-league-match-contributed-to-italys-covid-19-outbreak/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-cham... More sources. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfinal-Hinspiel_Atalanta_Bergamo_–_FC_Valencia_2020 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfi...
lagadu 6y ago
I've already been to concerts this month, so yea. Lots of Europe already restarted large gatherings.

Would you yourself go to a concert at this time?

haunter 6y ago

In Germany? Yes. In the US? Absolutely not. I'm in Hungary and was at a jazz concert myself this weekend

Eldt 6y ago
What do you think your chances of catching and spreading the virus are?

vanilla-almond 6y ago

Would you yourself go to a concert at this time? This socially-distanced outdoor concert in Newcastle (in the UK) doesn't seem too bad. Everyone has their own 'pod'. However, it's not suitable for indoor concerts and the extra logistics might make it too impractical even for outdoor concerts. Pic of the setup: https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_1100,c_fill,g_auto,h_619,ar_16:9/http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F200813074413-restricted-01-social-distanced-music-festival-intl-scli-0811.jpg https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/q_auto,w_1100,c_fill,g_aut... Here's a write-up of what it was like to attend: This is what it was like to attend the UK’s first ever socially distanced gig: https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/14/this-is-what-it-was-like-to-attend-the-uks-first-ever-socially-distanced-concert-171256 https://thetab.com/uk/2020/08/14/this-is-what-it-was-like-to...

tbronchain 6y ago

Definitely. Wear a mask, wash your hands, try to keep some sort of distance with people, don't go if you feel sick and try taking care of your immune system as much as you can before/after. Expect people having some sort of respect and do the same. Outdoor events would be a much bigger yes compared to indoor (note: concerts doesn't mean stacked onto each other's). Of course, tests must be ubiquitous and this shouldn't happen while in an area having a peak of the epidemy. Restricting contacts with fragile people would also be wise. I've been to hundreds of concerts/events and rarely been sick after one. Risks to catch a disease are in my opinion not higher than public transports or a crowded beach and probably lower than bars in general. We need to stop this non-sense.

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
There's something innate about shaming people who do different things. People are feeding off of panic and constant dread. If you don't affirm their apocalypse delusions you'll be shamed. You'll be told attending a concert or even wanting to is a sign you're a selfish misanthrope and idiot. They could just indefinitely stay locked in their home if they feel the risk is that grave...but no, they'll stop at nothing to extend their agoraphobia to everyone.
patrickk 6y ago
> don't go if you feel sick Sadly, selfish people will abuse this. They'll go even if they feel sick, likely justifying it as "but I already bought my ticket". Asymptomatic people will also increase the risk. > Of course, tests must be ubiquitous and this shouldn't happen while in an area having a peak of the epidemy. Anecdotally, a doctor I went to recently told me that the standard swab test is likely to be ruled invalid in the near future, he referenced a study that should be published soon. So, we will be flying blind if large (indoor) events re-open.

matz1 6y ago

I'm not a music fan but if I were I absolutely will go. The risk are minimal. The virus spread easily but not that dangerous. In fact I've been living my life as normal as I could possibly do all these times.

dboreham 6y ago
The issue isn't the risk to yourself, which is minimal. The problem is that spreading the virus widely (which seems easy to do at crowded events, precise transmission model not yet known) ultimately results in a bunch of other people somewhere in the future ending up in hospital or dead.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  How many people have you killed if you were ever infected with flu or some other airborne virus? This thinking is absurd.
  - rorykoehler 6y ago
    A champions league game was the source of a major spike in both Italy and Spain and ended up killing thousands.
    - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
      By that logic, China killed a million ppl?
      - rorykoehler 6y ago
        I expect more intellectual honesty and curiosity on this site tbh. Please don’t purposely reduce the quality of the experience here. Some context >The match is being called "Game Zero" because it was played just two days before the first positive case of COVID-19 was confirmed in Italy. The head of pulmonology at a Bergamo hospital, which is outside of Milan and the usual home of Atalanta, recently described the Champions League match as "a biological bomb." There were also about 2,500 Valencia fans in the stands for the match, and 35 percent of Valencia's team tested positive for the coronavirus a few weeks later. >Bergamo Mayor Giorgio Gori echoed that statement. https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-champions-league-match-contributed-to-italys-covid-19-outbreak/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/coronavirus-how-a-cham... More sources. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfinal-Hinspiel_Atalanta_Bergamo_–_FC_Valencia_2020 https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA-Champions-League-Achtelfi...

lagadu 6y ago

I've already been to concerts this month, so yea. Lots of Europe already restarted large gatherings.