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Nonsense. /etc is for important system stuff. libexec is BSD specific and btw not everything is BSD.

• masklinn 6y ago
  The article is about BSD.
  • zeptonix 6y ago
    ... and not everything is BSD
    • geofft 6y ago
      But this article is not about everything.
    • masklinn 6y ago
      Which is not relevant because the article is about BSDs. If your point is that rc should not be modified for <whatever> because of BSDs… rc is not a centralised and unified tool, how BSDs handle their initialisation process has no bearing on any other system unless those others decide to follow suit.
• geofft 6y ago
  libexec exists on Red Hat lineage OSes too, and it's standardized in LSB. (I think I'd basically say that it's Debian lineage that doesn't have it; the default of e.g. anything that follows GNU's 'make install' standards is to use it unless instructed not to.) LSB is worth reading, because it had a precise definition of /etc that is not "important system stuff."
  • teddyh 6y ago
    Debian also has libexec. I can see 80 packages¹ in Debian which has files in either /usr/libexec or /usr/$ARCH/libexec. The Debian Policy² does not mention libexec, but does refer to the FHS, which does allow libexec³. 1. Here is the list: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/apper https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/arctica-greeter https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/arctica-greeter-guest-session https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/at-spi2-core https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bacula-common https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/dillo https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/drkonqi https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/eximon4 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fgetty https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flatpak https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flatpak-builder-tests https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flatpak-tests https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flatpak-xdg-utils https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flatpak-xdg-utils-tests https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/font-viewer https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/frameworkintegration https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gamemode-daemon https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gstreamer-qapt https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gtk-3-examples https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hotspot https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/iwd https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-cli-tools https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-config-gtk-style https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-config-gtk-style-preview https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-config-systemd https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kdeconnect https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-telepathy-auth-handler https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-telepathy-call-ui https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-telepathy-filetransfer-handler https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kde-telepathy-text-ui https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/khelpcenter https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kinit https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kio https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/kwin-common https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/lambda-align2 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libexecline2.5 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libexecline-dev https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libexecs0 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libexecs-dev https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libexecs-embedded0 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5config-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5purpose-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5screen-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5su-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5wayland-dev https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkf5xmlgui-bin https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkim-api-dev https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libkscreenlocker5 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libktpotr9 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libmbim-proxy https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libmodsecurity3 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libqmi-proxy https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mlucas https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ntpsec https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openconnect https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/opensmtpd https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/opensmtpd-extras https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/os-autoinst https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ostree-boot https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ostree-tests https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-desktop https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-discover https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-discover-backend-snap https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-workspace https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/plasma-workspace-wayland https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/polkit-kde-agent-1 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/powerdevil https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/pulseaudio-module-gsettings https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/remote-logon-service https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rkward https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/seahorse https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/sysprof https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/tomcat9 https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/tomcat9-common https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xdg-dbus-proxy-tests https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xdg-desktop-portal https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xdg-desktop-portal-gtk https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xdg-desktop-portal-kde https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xdg-desktop-portal-tests 2. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ 3. https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.html#usrlibexec https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.html#us...
    • JdeBP 6y ago
      Debian generally favours individual subdirectories of /usr/lib instead. /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd rather than /usr/local/libexec/polkitd (in older FreeBSD packages), for example.
  • kqr 6y ago
    Link for the lazy: https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/tocexecenv.html https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LSB_5.0.0/LSB-Core-gene... This seems like a very useful read indeed.
• jmmv 6y ago
  libexec is not really BSD-specific, but yes, this article is about BSD. However, I also mentioned that the same problem applies to pre-systemd Linux systems because of their /etc/init.d/ directory. systemd has actually done the right thing here (which is also mentioned in the article) by putting unit logic under /lib/.