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It is 1 if you just need to destroy its airfield. Airwar is not about who shoots more planes, it's about who will blow up enemy's airbases first.

jessaustin 6y ago
If planes are conceptually vulnerable to a fog of drones, then so are missiles. Anyway the fog drones are unlikely to require full-fledged airfields.
dmix 6y ago
Laser systems will handle that eventually. Bases will be hardened. Animated example of a convoy getting hit by lasers: https://youtu.be/-miBH10bdCs https://youtu.be/-miBH10bdCs Live example: https://youtu.be/XH6NIazR5pA https://youtu.be/XH6NIazR5pA
- hcurtiss 6y ago
  It sure seems like those would take a boatload of energy. I wonder how that's stored.
  - blaser-waffle 6y ago
    Indeed. Right now laser systems are feasible as weapons on ships... who have their own gigantic diesel engines (and/or nuclear reactors). Energy dissipation of a laser in atmo is going to require crazy amounts of energy to go even a moderate distance, so either those lasers are being fired from something really close to the airfield, or else you've got some S.H.I.E.L.D style flying aircraft carrier thing.
- a012 6y ago
  It's like from the Red Alert game https://i.imgur.com/UJZOfPc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UJZOfPc.jpg
- IgorPartola 6y ago
  How do these handle chaff, fog, rain? I know drones don’t handle those too well either but I can’t imagine guided missiles care all that much, while I can see heavy rain severely limiting the effectiveness of that laser.
- SpelingBeeChamp 6y ago
  Don't current laser systems require a pre-marked target and a stationary laser to be effective?
onepointsixC 6y ago
F-35B's are capable of taking off in less than 150 m. Good luck trying to destroy every single airport and highway.
- baybal2 6y ago
  An airvase, vs a road based, ad-hoc field, without even minimal infrastructure, and probably no defences too. A weapon without munitions, is a useless weapon, even if it costs $300M a pop. A war is won by a soldier, and lost by a logistics officer. The maximum what a few fit men can load very slowly, unassisted is 250kg, and usually only 100kg by a single man. Gravity fed refueling is also quite time consuming.

jessaustin 6y ago

If planes are conceptually vulnerable to a fog of drones, then so are missiles. Anyway the fog drones are unlikely to require full-fledged airfields.

dmix 6y ago

Laser systems will handle that eventually. Bases will be hardened. Animated example of a convoy getting hit by lasers: https://youtu.be/-miBH10bdCs https://youtu.be/-miBH10bdCs Live example: https://youtu.be/XH6NIazR5pA https://youtu.be/XH6NIazR5pA

hcurtiss 6y ago
It sure seems like those would take a boatload of energy. I wonder how that's stored.
- blaser-waffle 6y ago
  Indeed. Right now laser systems are feasible as weapons on ships... who have their own gigantic diesel engines (and/or nuclear reactors). Energy dissipation of a laser in atmo is going to require crazy amounts of energy to go even a moderate distance, so either those lasers are being fired from something really close to the airfield, or else you've got some S.H.I.E.L.D style flying aircraft carrier thing.
a012 6y ago
It's like from the Red Alert game https://i.imgur.com/UJZOfPc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UJZOfPc.jpg
IgorPartola 6y ago
How do these handle chaff, fog, rain? I know drones don’t handle those too well either but I can’t imagine guided missiles care all that much, while I can see heavy rain severely limiting the effectiveness of that laser.
SpelingBeeChamp 6y ago
Don't current laser systems require a pre-marked target and a stationary laser to be effective?

onepointsixC 6y ago

F-35B's are capable of taking off in less than 150 m. Good luck trying to destroy every single airport and highway.

baybal2 6y ago
An airvase, vs a road based, ad-hoc field, without even minimal infrastructure, and probably no defences too. A weapon without munitions, is a useless weapon, even if it costs $300M a pop. A war is won by a soldier, and lost by a logistics officer. The maximum what a few fit men can load very slowly, unassisted is 250kg, and usually only 100kg by a single man. Gravity fed refueling is also quite time consuming.