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This shows how the old experienced people can fall into the trap of over-rating the 'hands-on' human experience. In fact a human will have no chance at all agai

This shows how the old experienced people can fall into the trap of over-rating the 'hands-on' human experience. In fact a human will have no chance at all against an AI operated fighter designed as a high-G fighter. We saw how the video AI was able to win with the ability of the AI fighter limited to the human driven planes ability. What do you think will happen when the AI has 30-50 G turn capability. This is why modern missiles have guaranteed kill zones - they have 30-50G turn capability. Modern jamming is running out of room gradually as tech advances, so missiles can still be jammed for quite a while as that arms race evolves.

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tempestn 6y ago
Which of your points do you feel the article writer was disagreeing with?
- aurizon 6y ago
  Well, this was set up as a fight with equal resources. The same plane, flown by AI/Human. In a real case you want to set up 'win'scenarios = sure kills. The AI was able to dominate. He seemed to think that a real human in a real plane against the same plane with AI, would draw upon human resources to feel G at 600 knots etc and exceed the ability of the AI to draw on those resources - being an unfeeling machine. In fact, once stripped down AI fighting platforms get made, they will dominate. It will take a design cycle to remove the human life support weight and to remove the cockpit etc,so it can be a 30-50G missile platform - that is what it will be. AI attacked versus AI ground defence missiles with similar AI counter fighters. One can postulate a similar AI blizzard of radar/radio/optical jamming by both sides that will see-saw back and forth as tech develops. We fancy ourselves and look down on Russia, in fact Russia has a capable educational system. It was killed as the USSR by bad economic policies = central planning = a dead horse nobody can ride to victory. Now they are dragged down by the Oligarch tax = oligarchs steal any good idea and company that another Russian creates take it over with a faked shareholders and board meeting = they fill all roles, and drain cash from it. There have been hundreds of these and they are slowly and wurely killing Russia. Look at Putin, poisoning other politicians. /politics off....;)
  - tempestn 6y ago
    > He seemed to think that a real human in a real plane against the same plane with AI, would draw upon human resources to feel G at 600 knots etc and exceed the ability of the AI to draw on those resources - being an unfeeling machine. I don't think he's saying that at all. On the contrary, he's saying the opposite, explaining the advantages an AI has in these areas. For example, > Even proficient aviators have to use a percentage of their concentration (i.e. situation awareness) on not over-performing or under-performing the aircraft. AI could easily track this task and would most likely never bleed airspeed or altitude excessively, preserving vital potential and kinetic energy while also fine-tuning lift vector placement on the other aircraft to continue the fight if required.

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tempestn 6y ago

Which of your points do you feel the article writer was disagreeing with?

aurizon 6y ago
Well, this was set up as a fight with equal resources. The same plane, flown by AI/Human. In a real case you want to set up 'win'scenarios = sure kills. The AI was able to dominate. He seemed to think that a real human in a real plane against the same plane with AI, would draw upon human resources to feel G at 600 knots etc and exceed the ability of the AI to draw on those resources - being an unfeeling machine. In fact, once stripped down AI fighting platforms get made, they will dominate. It will take a design cycle to remove the human life support weight and to remove the cockpit etc,so it can be a 30-50G missile platform - that is what it will be. AI attacked versus AI ground defence missiles with similar AI counter fighters. One can postulate a similar AI blizzard of radar/radio/optical jamming by both sides that will see-saw back and forth as tech develops. We fancy ourselves and look down on Russia, in fact Russia has a capable educational system. It was killed as the USSR by bad economic policies = central planning = a dead horse nobody can ride to victory. Now they are dragged down by the Oligarch tax = oligarchs steal any good idea and company that another Russian creates take it over with a faked shareholders and board meeting = they fill all roles, and drain cash from it. There have been hundreds of these and they are slowly and wurely killing Russia. Look at Putin, poisoning other politicians. /politics off....;)
- tempestn 6y ago
  > He seemed to think that a real human in a real plane against the same plane with AI, would draw upon human resources to feel G at 600 knots etc and exceed the ability of the AI to draw on those resources - being an unfeeling machine. I don't think he's saying that at all. On the contrary, he's saying the opposite, explaining the advantages an AI has in these areas. For example, > Even proficient aviators have to use a percentage of their concentration (i.e. situation awareness) on not over-performing or under-performing the aircraft. AI could easily track this task and would most likely never bleed airspeed or altitude excessively, preserving vital potential and kinetic energy while also fine-tuning lift vector placement on the other aircraft to continue the fight if required.