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The downvotes to your comments suggest that people here either don't agree with your argument, take issue with the way you're presenting it, or both. I'm not c
by ohazi 6y ago
The downvotes to your comments suggest that people here either don't agree with your argument, take issue with the way you're presenting it, or both.
I'm not claiming a moral high ground, I'm suggesting that there's a flaw in your reasoning. If something you do or want places an externality on other people, then you don't automatically get to claim that behavior as a right just because you wish to be left alone. The other people who are affected by the consequences of your actions have a right to a seat at the table, and they're going to tell you to grow up, because you don't live in a vacuum. That's not a moral high ground, that's just how life works when you live around other people.
In this case, one externality is that when you or others like you get sick or injured without insurance, society picks up the tab. Society would rather not pick up the tab if they can force your wealthy employer to pick it up instead.
If you want to make an effective counter-argument, you need to explain why your position doesn't actually place this cost on society, or suggest a different way for this cost to get paid.
"But muh freedom?" is not a good counter-argument. "Why has society chosen to pick up the tab?" is a valid question, but is not a counter-argument.
- Waterfall 6y agoMy issue is the unequal application of insurance. We don't care about the reasons for poor health and instead treat it. I never once said "muh freedom" was the issue, and in fact point out that people don't wear masks even today. The problem is the culture of freedoms and personal responsibility has completed deteriorated. Preventable illnesses like obesity, smoking are ignored as personal freedoms, and are allowed to run rampant while their preventable illnesses clog up the system. Why is only helping the sick focused, at the middle of the story as if there is a predisposed amount of illness, and not on the circumstances that lead to it? People worry about single mothers but don't worry about them before they become single mothers. It's baffling.