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What is the difference between the capabilities of the console hardware and the phone hardware? The console hardware is actually more powerful. PS3's were used

What is the difference between the capabilities of the console hardware and the phone hardware? The console hardware is actually more powerful. PS3's were used as general purpose computers until Sony removed OtherOS functionality. This is nothing but defensive "don't sue us next" posturing by Microsoft. Consoles are just as general purpose as a phone. The only difference is the software veneer running on top.

pkaye 6y ago
Those game systems allows purchasing from physical stores. Does Apple allow that?
- threeseed 6y ago
  Many (or even most) PS5 users will not be able to purchase from physical stores since the cheapest model does not ship with a BluRay drive. And it's likely PS5 Pro or PS6 will not support this model at all.
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    I can sell digital subscriptions on after market for console games Can I sell my iPhone apps?
    - threeseed 6y ago
      PS4 games are tied to your account just like iOS. So yes you can sell your iPhone apps the same way you sell your PS4 games i.e. by selling your entire account. But in both cases this is against the terms and conditions and so it's likely this account will be terminated.
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        If iPhones had the same rules of PSN Apple wouldn't be so rich "If you want to play on another PS4 that isn't your primary console, you can download any game you've bought on the PS Store as long as you sign into PSN. Only you'll be able to start the games you've downloaded, and you can only be logged into two consoles at any one time: your primary PS4 and one other secondary one (like a friend's). The good news is there's no limit on the number of systems you can download your games to. You have to be logged in in order to play, but from the sounds of things this means you can share digital games with as many mates as you like, though only one of these secondary consoles will be able to play a title at any given time and you'll have to tell them your password so they can log in. As has been mentioned before, the situation with discs remains the same as ever. Sony has reiterated that, "You can share disc games with your friends and play used disc games on your PS4 system just like you can on a PlayStation 3 system. You do not have to connect to the Internet or pay any usage fees to play used games."
- akersten 6y ago
  It's an unimportant distinction. It doesn't matter that you got your Microsoft-store approved copy of Gears of War from Gamestop instead of the Microsoft app store. MS still gets their cut, and that application still had to be approved by them. The core similarity to iOS and Apple's app store is: Third party applications cannot run on the Xbox without Microsoft review, approval, and fee. It doesn't matter that it's a physical copy or not. You, an independent developer, can't just create an Xbox game and get it running without MS approval, no matter whether you wanted to sell it on the app store or as a physical copy.
  - pkaye 6y ago
    How does this compare to Google? You can develop your own app and side load it. And you can have third part app stores.
    - akersten 6y ago
      Yep, I'd say Google's closer to doing the right thing here comparatively, having at least a non-terrible path to running unsigned APKs. I would put Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the same bucket of "makes hardware that can run software, but only software they approve." Whether this is something we as a society should allow, I won't comment on, but I will say that Epic should either have a grievance with all of them or none of them. Microsoft and Epic are strange bedfellows and I can't see this headline as anything other than a nervous preemption on Microsoft's part.
      - fomine3 6y ago
        I against to put smartphone platform and game console in the same bucket on antitrust perspective because there's only two viable players in smartphone platform market (on gaming, 3 major platforms + open PC platform + smartphone platforms) and it's mandatory device for modern life.

pkaye 6y ago

Those game systems allows purchasing from physical stores. Does Apple allow that?

threeseed 6y ago
Many (or even most) PS5 users will not be able to purchase from physical stores since the cheapest model does not ship with a BluRay drive. And it's likely PS5 Pro or PS6 will not support this model at all.
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  I can sell digital subscriptions on after market for console games Can I sell my iPhone apps?
  - threeseed 6y ago
    PS4 games are tied to your account just like iOS. So yes you can sell your iPhone apps the same way you sell your PS4 games i.e. by selling your entire account. But in both cases this is against the terms and conditions and so it's likely this account will be terminated.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      If iPhones had the same rules of PSN Apple wouldn't be so rich "If you want to play on another PS4 that isn't your primary console, you can download any game you've bought on the PS Store as long as you sign into PSN. Only you'll be able to start the games you've downloaded, and you can only be logged into two consoles at any one time: your primary PS4 and one other secondary one (like a friend's). The good news is there's no limit on the number of systems you can download your games to. You have to be logged in in order to play, but from the sounds of things this means you can share digital games with as many mates as you like, though only one of these secondary consoles will be able to play a title at any given time and you'll have to tell them your password so they can log in. As has been mentioned before, the situation with discs remains the same as ever. Sony has reiterated that, "You can share disc games with your friends and play used disc games on your PS4 system just like you can on a PlayStation 3 system. You do not have to connect to the Internet or pay any usage fees to play used games."
akersten 6y ago
It's an unimportant distinction. It doesn't matter that you got your Microsoft-store approved copy of Gears of War from Gamestop instead of the Microsoft app store. MS still gets their cut, and that application still had to be approved by them. The core similarity to iOS and Apple's app store is: Third party applications cannot run on the Xbox without Microsoft review, approval, and fee. It doesn't matter that it's a physical copy or not. You, an independent developer, can't just create an Xbox game and get it running without MS approval, no matter whether you wanted to sell it on the app store or as a physical copy.
- pkaye 6y ago
  How does this compare to Google? You can develop your own app and side load it. And you can have third part app stores.
  - akersten 6y ago
    Yep, I'd say Google's closer to doing the right thing here comparatively, having at least a non-terrible path to running unsigned APKs. I would put Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo in the same bucket of "makes hardware that can run software, but only software they approve." Whether this is something we as a society should allow, I won't comment on, but I will say that Epic should either have a grievance with all of them or none of them. Microsoft and Epic are strange bedfellows and I can't see this headline as anything other than a nervous preemption on Microsoft's part.
    - fomine3 6y ago
      I against to put smartphone platform and game console in the same bucket on antitrust perspective because there's only two viable players in smartphone platform market (on gaming, 3 major platforms + open PC platform + smartphone platforms) and it's mandatory device for modern life.