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Could you imagine a government agency spying on its own citizens? In America that would be illegal and unconstitutional. We would have to immediately defund th

Could you imagine a government agency spying on its own citizens? In America that would be illegal and unconstitutional. We would have to immediately defund that agency.

simlevesque 6y ago
is this a joke ? ever heard of the NSA ?
- aksss 6y ago
  “Kids detect sarcasm at about age 6, but don’t begin to see the intended humour until around age 10,” - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803141811.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803141811.h...
  - guerrilla 6y ago
    > Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied. The original statement, by Nathan Poe, read: > Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.
    - jessaustin 6y ago
      How old was Nathan Poe when he wrote that?
      - aksss 6y ago
        ;)
gruez 6y ago
>Could you imagine a government agency spying on its own citizens? In America that would be illegal and unconstitutional. I thought that was the case in most countries, so they get around it by getting their buddies to do it for them, hence five-eyes (or n-eyes).
throw_this_one 6y ago
Imagine a country where you have zero power to elect officials and have no constitution, so you could never have oversight over it. Oh wait, that’s the system (via China/Russia) that our intelligence agencies are helping protect us against.
- theplague42 6y ago
  Do you legitimately believe that US intelligence agencies are the bulwark against authoritarian government in the US?
  - throw_this_one 6y ago
    No, I meant they are part of the bulwark against countries like China/Russia taking over the world.
    - jessaustin 6y ago
      This is a seriously nutty belief, that you claim to have. This year the increase in our military spending was bigger than Russia's entire military spending. We could cut our military budget in half and still dwarf China's.
      - throw_this_one 6y ago
        Hah, what is funny is that you think military spending amounts means much at all. First of all, there’s asymmetrical warfare. Russia’s investment in cyber, hypersonic, etc. China’s investment in medium range missiles to create access denial for the US in the pacific. Plus factor in that the US budget is bloated because of these corrupt fat cat defense industry companies, huge waste, etc...
        chishaku 6y ago
        Given US foreign and economic policy intent on dominating every corner of the planet [0] and the universe [1], could you blame China, Russia, or any other country for doing everything they can to reach parity with the US? Giving up all your rights in the name of endless wars on everything is a path to a sad ending for the US and the world. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarisation_of_space#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarisation_of_space#United...
jandrese 6y ago
The sentiment was that the agencies would only look outward, but in reality the problem is mostly insider threat.
secondcoming 6y ago
How would they track all the white supremacists?

Could you imagine a government agency spying on its own citizens? In America that would be illegal and unconstitutional. We would have to immediately defund that agency.

simlevesque 6y ago

is this a joke ? ever heard of the NSA ?

aksss 6y ago
“Kids detect sarcasm at about age 6, but don’t begin to see the intended humour until around age 10,” - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803141811.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070803141811.h...
- guerrilla 6y ago
  > Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied. The original statement, by Nathan Poe, read: > Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    How old was Nathan Poe when he wrote that?
    - aksss 6y ago
      ;)

gruez 6y ago

>Could you imagine a government agency spying on its own citizens? In America that would be illegal and unconstitutional. I thought that was the case in most countries, so they get around it by getting their buddies to do it for them, hence five-eyes (or n-eyes).

throw_this_one 6y ago

Imagine a country where you have zero power to elect officials and have no constitution, so you could never have oversight over it. Oh wait, that’s the system (via China/Russia) that our intelligence agencies are helping protect us against.

theplague42 6y ago
Do you legitimately believe that US intelligence agencies are the bulwark against authoritarian government in the US?
- throw_this_one 6y ago
  No, I meant they are part of the bulwark against countries like China/Russia taking over the world.
  - jessaustin 6y ago
    This is a seriously nutty belief, that you claim to have. This year the increase in our military spending was bigger than Russia's entire military spending. We could cut our military budget in half and still dwarf China's.
    - throw_this_one 6y ago
      Hah, what is funny is that you think military spending amounts means much at all. First of all, there’s asymmetrical warfare. Russia’s investment in cyber, hypersonic, etc. China’s investment in medium range missiles to create access denial for the US in the pacific. Plus factor in that the US budget is bloated because of these corrupt fat cat defense industry companies, huge waste, etc...
      - chishaku 6y ago
        Given US foreign and economic policy intent on dominating every corner of the planet [0] and the universe [1], could you blame China, Russia, or any other country for doing everything they can to reach parity with the US? Giving up all your rights in the name of endless wars on everything is a path to a sad ending for the US and the world. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-spectrum_dominance [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarisation_of_space#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarisation_of_space#United...

jandrese 6y ago

The sentiment was that the agencies would only look outward, but in reality the problem is mostly insider threat.

secondcoming 6y ago

How would they track all the white supremacists?