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I don't.

jiggawatts 6y ago
I was a vocal atheist back in my university days, but ironically most of my friends were highly devout Christians... studying Physics of all things. I was trying to explain to one particular such Christian friend that the problem with religion is that "The fish is the last to know that it lives in water". That is: it seems obvious that "Our religion is the one true religion" only if you hadn't travelled and realised that everyone thinks that, but doesn't agree with you. In a context of a Christian country, a Christian upbringing, and a Christian government, this is not so obvious. She disagreed, and said very firmly that she does notice such consistent trends. "I would know if I lived in water." We were in a packed lecture hall. In reply, I said simply: "Everyone single person in this room is wearing jeans, except me."
- the-dude 6y ago
  Thanks for posting. To follow up on the jeans, especially for women, "traditional" trousers ( pantalons? ) are much nicer on non-skinny / non-current-ideal body types. I have seen women with asses ( ahum behinds ) too big for my taste look absolutely stunning in the right pants.
- frenchy 6y ago
  > only if you hadn't travelled and realised that everyone thinks that, but doesn't agree with you For what it's worth, I don't think this is true. There are a good number of places in the world were people of different religous faiths live alongside each other. Sometimes they try and kill each other, but often they can live fairly peacibly. India's a good example (including both the killing and the peacibly part).
  - y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
    They live alongside each other yes, but OP's point is still valid. Muslims believe their religion is the one true religion. Christians believe their religion is the one true religion. And so on and so forth... Or to put it another way: they all think their shit don't stink. It's even crazier when you break it down into denominations (see: Iran vs Saudi Arabia).
- neutronicus 6y ago
  As a trained physicist ... finding Christians in Physics really shouldn't surprise as you. As a field we've gotten a lot of mileage out of deciding that something simply must be true due to the aesthetics of a set of equations, and our heroes (Dirac and his positron, Higgs and his Boson) are people whose faith in their aesthetic judgment was retroactively rewarded by experiment.
- bradjohnson 6y ago
  The way this is written comes across as very conceited. Do you truly believe that everyone is a sheep but you based on the clothes they throw on before a university lecture?
  - the-dude 6y ago
    He did not say that like at all.
    - bradjohnson 6y ago
      I don't think I'll spend too much time in a discussion about tone with someone who talks so grossly about women as you did in the sibling comment.

I don't.

I was a vocal atheist back in my university days, but ironically most of my friends were highly devout Christians... studying Physics of all things. I was trying to explain to one particular such Christian friend that the problem with religion is that "The fish is the last to know that it lives in water". That is: it seems obvious that "Our religion is the one true religion" only if you hadn't travelled and realised that everyone thinks that, but doesn't agree with you. In a context of a Christian country, a Christian upbringing, and a Christian government, this is not so obvious. She disagreed, and said very firmly that she does notice such consistent trends. "I would know if I lived in water." We were in a packed lecture hall. In reply, I said simply: "Everyone single person in this room is wearing jeans, except me."

the-dude 6y ago
Thanks for posting. To follow up on the jeans, especially for women, "traditional" trousers ( pantalons? ) are much nicer on non-skinny / non-current-ideal body types. I have seen women with asses ( ahum behinds ) too big for my taste look absolutely stunning in the right pants.
frenchy 6y ago
> only if you hadn't travelled and realised that everyone thinks that, but doesn't agree with you For what it's worth, I don't think this is true. There are a good number of places in the world were people of different religous faiths live alongside each other. Sometimes they try and kill each other, but often they can live fairly peacibly. India's a good example (including both the killing and the peacibly part).
- y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
  They live alongside each other yes, but OP's point is still valid. Muslims believe their religion is the one true religion. Christians believe their religion is the one true religion. And so on and so forth... Or to put it another way: they all think their shit don't stink. It's even crazier when you break it down into denominations (see: Iran vs Saudi Arabia).
neutronicus 6y ago
As a trained physicist ... finding Christians in Physics really shouldn't surprise as you. As a field we've gotten a lot of mileage out of deciding that something simply must be true due to the aesthetics of a set of equations, and our heroes (Dirac and his positron, Higgs and his Boson) are people whose faith in their aesthetic judgment was retroactively rewarded by experiment.
bradjohnson 6y ago
The way this is written comes across as very conceited. Do you truly believe that everyone is a sheep but you based on the clothes they throw on before a university lecture?
- the-dude 6y ago
  He did not say that like at all.
  - bradjohnson 6y ago
    I don't think I'll spend too much time in a discussion about tone with someone who talks so grossly about women as you did in the sibling comment.