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"Nor will we; a formal shirt looks and feels better than a t-shirt, regardless of the quality of the t-shirt." Looks? Probably. Feels? That's absolutely subjec

"Nor will we; a formal shirt looks and feels better than a t-shirt, regardless of the quality of the t-shirt." Looks? Probably. Feels? That's absolutely subjective. I much prefer short sleeved shirts, and having lived most of my life with a warm enough climate to make that a viable clothing option, generally wear them when sensible. I have very few collared shirts that feel as good as a nice-fitting American Apparel T-shirt. Same with shorts, when whether permits. "I think that the "t-shirts stick-it-to-the-man" attitude is pretty sad." Why do you think I'm dressing casually at work to stick it to the man? I, and many of my coworkers, dress casual to be as comfortable as possible as work, which has the effect of improving my productivity. "T-shirts seem like a rather poorly-thought-through immature act of rebellion to me." And wearing dress clothes to work just to suck up to/impress your boss, even at the cost of comfort, seems like a rather poorly-thought-through custom to me. I have several friends who work at companies which have fairly strict dress code policies, all of whom would gladly switch to more casual wear if allowed.

nagrom 16y ago
"Looks? Probably. Feels? That's absolutely subjective." Fair enough. Generally, though, you only get t-shirts in cotton. It's nice to wear linen, or the nicer cottons that you typically get with formal shirts. "Why do you think I'm dressing casually at work to stick it to the man? I, and many of my coworkers, dress casual to be as comfortable as possible as work, which has the effect of improving my productivity." I don't think that everyone does - but a non-negligible subset of people wearing t-shirts to work are doing it because of some misguided attempt to resemble the Big Lebowski. The point of wearing something smart should not be to suck up to your boss! They're supposed to make you look and feel good. The most important person about this is you - having specific outfits that you associate with work can be a useful psychological trick to get 'in the zone'. If formal clothes are uncomfortable, you're probably wearing the wrong clothes - they either don't fit or are made of inappropriate materials. You need to spend a bit more to get that comfortable fit but once you do, formal clothes become as comfy as pyjamas. Except ties. I hate ties. So I don't wear them often.
- Retric 16y ago
  Your view of formal clothing is still rather casual. I work in a professional setting where I always need to ware a tie and often need full suit. Both of them reduce my level of physical comfort and I would much rather avoid them. However, as a company we are among the more casual in our field and there is plenty of levels of formal above us. PS: There is an old IBM story of a programmer sent home from training for being under dressed. He was wearing reasonably formal attire, but the instructor instructed him to lift his pants leg to demonstrate what your socks looked like if you did not use garters and then sent him home. http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/16/ubss-43-page-dress-c.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/16/ubss-43-page-dress-c.html

nagrom 16y ago

"Looks? Probably. Feels? That's absolutely subjective." Fair enough. Generally, though, you only get t-shirts in cotton. It's nice to wear linen, or the nicer cottons that you typically get with formal shirts. "Why do you think I'm dressing casually at work to stick it to the man? I, and many of my coworkers, dress casual to be as comfortable as possible as work, which has the effect of improving my productivity." I don't think that everyone does - but a non-negligible subset of people wearing t-shirts to work are doing it because of some misguided attempt to resemble the Big Lebowski. The point of wearing something smart should not be to suck up to your boss! They're supposed to make you look and feel good. The most important person about this is you - having specific outfits that you associate with work can be a useful psychological trick to get 'in the zone'. If formal clothes are uncomfortable, you're probably wearing the wrong clothes - they either don't fit or are made of inappropriate materials. You need to spend a bit more to get that comfortable fit but once you do, formal clothes become as comfy as pyjamas. Except ties. I hate ties. So I don't wear them often.

Retric 16y ago
Your view of formal clothing is still rather casual. I work in a professional setting where I always need to ware a tie and often need full suit. Both of them reduce my level of physical comfort and I would much rather avoid them. However, as a company we are among the more casual in our field and there is plenty of levels of formal above us. PS: There is an old IBM story of a programmer sent home from training for being under dressed. He was wearing reasonably formal attire, but the instructor instructed him to lift his pants leg to demonstrate what your socks looked like if you did not use garters and then sent him home. http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part2.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/16/ubss-43-page-dress-c.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/16/ubss-43-page-dress-c.html