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I am pretty sure the default shell was csh on OpenStep and thus most likely on NeXTSTEP as well.

by ibotty 6y ago

richrichardsson 6y ago
Having watched a bunch of videos of people who bought NeXT computers recently, I can confirm that the shell they saw when running Terminal.app was csh. It would be a hell of a coincindence if all of them had happened to change from the default to csh.
- Twisell 6y ago
  Also MacOS switch to zsh was pretty recent (used to be bash). https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050 Must have been some confusion here.
  - petre 6y ago
    It was an old bash 2.x which was still GPLv2. Zsh being MIT licensed posed no licensing issues for inclusion into MacOS. I switched to zsh on Snow Leopard and above and never looked back. Didn't use the fancy stuff much and still use bash on Linux.
  - lozf 6y ago
    ISTR OSX defaulted to tcsh way back before the move to bash.
  - kristopolous 6y ago
    No there's no confusion. Maybe you thought I meant it was the default shell, I didn't. It's simply installed with everything else. The list is sh, csh, and zsh. The executable is on the machine. An operating system can have more than a single shell executable. Do you want me to post the binary? Screen shots? Maybe turn on an ssh hole? Perhaps send the man page? I can do all of this. You can log in remotely and run it if you so desire. I might be able to coerce VNC even although I'd probably need up port it to openstep (I've ported vnc before). Maybe there's a virtual box way of doing it as well
    - ibotty 6y ago
      Nobody is accusing you of anything. I understood that the phrase "Fun fact: That's a legacy openstep thing" referred to the previous comment indicating that (at some point in time) MacOS defaulted to zsh. It was just a misunderstanding.
- kristopolous 6y ago
  That's not what I meant. I meant it shipped with zsh, which was really unusual. Here's a screenshot I just took (http://9ol.es/ostep.png http://9ol.es/ostep.png) ... I've installed bash on there. It didn't ship with bash.

I am pretty sure the default shell was csh on OpenStep and thus most likely on NeXTSTEP as well.

by ibotty 6y ago

I am pretty sure the default shell was csh on OpenStep and thus most likely on NeXTSTEP as well.

Having watched a bunch of videos of people who bought NeXT computers recently, I can confirm that the shell they saw when running Terminal.app was csh. It would be a hell of a coincindence if all of them had happened to change from the default to csh.

Twisell 6y ago
Also MacOS switch to zsh was pretty recent (used to be bash). https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050 Must have been some confusion here.
- petre 6y ago
  It was an old bash 2.x which was still GPLv2. Zsh being MIT licensed posed no licensing issues for inclusion into MacOS. I switched to zsh on Snow Leopard and above and never looked back. Didn't use the fancy stuff much and still use bash on Linux.
- lozf 6y ago
  ISTR OSX defaulted to tcsh way back before the move to bash.
- kristopolous 6y ago
  No there's no confusion. Maybe you thought I meant it was the default shell, I didn't. It's simply installed with everything else. The list is sh, csh, and zsh. The executable is on the machine. An operating system can have more than a single shell executable. Do you want me to post the binary? Screen shots? Maybe turn on an ssh hole? Perhaps send the man page? I can do all of this. You can log in remotely and run it if you so desire. I might be able to coerce VNC even although I'd probably need up port it to openstep (I've ported vnc before). Maybe there's a virtual box way of doing it as well
  - ibotty 6y ago
    Nobody is accusing you of anything. I understood that the phrase "Fun fact: That's a legacy openstep thing" referred to the previous comment indicating that (at some point in time) MacOS defaulted to zsh. It was just a misunderstanding.
kristopolous 6y ago
That's not what I meant. I meant it shipped with zsh, which was really unusual. Here's a screenshot I just took (http://9ol.es/ostep.png http://9ol.es/ostep.png) ... I've installed bash on there. It didn't ship with bash.