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I don't know, why would we continue to subject ourselves to useless TSA security theater rubdowns and millimeter wave scanners that can see your naked body unde

by jjeaff 6y ago

I don't know, why would we continue to subject ourselves to useless TSA security theater rubdowns and millimeter wave scanners that can see your naked body under your clothes adding hours to the onboarding process when most experts agree it is ineffective and most logical beings understand that another 9/11 can never really happen again the way it did? I suspect what will drive a lot of changes like these will be insurance. Companies will want pandemic insurance and insurance companies will not offer reasonable premiums without certain precautions in place because the cost of payouts is too high.

alphabettsy 6y ago
I thought what we’ve learned about TSA security theater is that another 9/11 could happen and what we’re doing wouldn’t prevent it.
- jjeaff 6y ago
  The possibility of another 9/11 became non-viable about 10 minutes after a second plane hit the WTC. It's the reason Flight 915 didn't make it to Washington DC. The passengers on 915 received the news of what was happening in NYC and the Pentagon and rushed the cockpit and the terrorists. You can't hold a plane hostage if the occupants know you are taking them on a suicide mission.
- riffic 6y ago
  now would be the time to do it too, with less people riding planes to potentially fight back like flight 93.
- drewcoo 6y ago
  That's the advertising. Human risk perception is very near-sighted. Over a decade ago is very blurry. Did that time even happen? Someone told me Seinfeld was funny then but I don't believe it. Why are wage slaves doing demeaning work invading our privacy in long lines? Follow the money.
jayd16 6y ago
Because its a jobs program.
hn_throwaway_99 6y ago
> when most experts agree it is ineffective Can you please point to the source for this? I know it's a favorite to rail against TSA "security theater", but actually these days I don't find going through the security line to be much longer or more cumbersome than it was pre-911.
zachware 6y ago
This is an exceptionally good point. My rebuttal is that it takes one institution to force the TSA theater on us but it would take thousands of organizations to make this article's predictions true at scale. A counterpoint to my own is that it takes one person dying from something plastered on CNN to get every employer in America interested in signalizing a desire to protect hundreds of thousands who are actually not at risk. So this outcome is, in that way, possible. Basically, let CNN or Fox News drive and we'll live in that world.

by jjeaff 6y ago

alphabettsy 6y ago

I thought what we’ve learned about TSA security theater is that another 9/11 could happen and what we’re doing wouldn’t prevent it.

jjeaff 6y ago
The possibility of another 9/11 became non-viable about 10 minutes after a second plane hit the WTC. It's the reason Flight 915 didn't make it to Washington DC. The passengers on 915 received the news of what was happening in NYC and the Pentagon and rushed the cockpit and the terrorists. You can't hold a plane hostage if the occupants know you are taking them on a suicide mission.
riffic 6y ago
now would be the time to do it too, with less people riding planes to potentially fight back like flight 93.
drewcoo 6y ago
That's the advertising. Human risk perception is very near-sighted. Over a decade ago is very blurry. Did that time even happen? Someone told me Seinfeld was funny then but I don't believe it. Why are wage slaves doing demeaning work invading our privacy in long lines? Follow the money.

jayd16 6y ago

Because its a jobs program.

hn_throwaway_99 6y ago

> when most experts agree it is ineffective Can you please point to the source for this? I know it's a favorite to rail against TSA "security theater", but actually these days I don't find going through the security line to be much longer or more cumbersome than it was pre-911.

zachware 6y ago

This is an exceptionally good point. My rebuttal is that it takes one institution to force the TSA theater on us but it would take thousands of organizations to make this article's predictions true at scale. A counterpoint to my own is that it takes one person dying from something plastered on CNN to get every employer in America interested in signalizing a desire to protect hundreds of thousands who are actually not at risk. So this outcome is, in that way, possible. Basically, let CNN or Fox News drive and we'll live in that world.