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That's a different school, run by different people. It does not prohibit attendance by students of any race. The only bias I see is that of the parents, who pay

by burfog 6y ago

That's a different school, run by different people. It does not prohibit attendance by students of any race. The only bias I see is that of the parents, who pay a housing premium to avoid being associated with some kinds of people. The local people choose the school board, which then chooses the school policy and administration. School policy is limited by what is allowed and by what seems to work. If the parents usually are quick to discipline students for misbehavior, then parents will be relied upon to do so. If the parents ignore or encourage misbehavior, there is no reason to involve them. The police will be called instead.

scarface74 6y ago
No, same district. Different punishment. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/03/police-punitive-policies-make-schools-less-safe-especially-minority-students/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/03/police-pun...
- burfog 6y ago
  Still, you elected a school board that would permit that difference, and you chose where to live. If telling parents gets students under control at one school, and it doesn't work at the other school, punishment will be different. You could get to that policy by trial and error, without any knowledge of the racial makeup of the student body.
  - scarface74 6y ago
    Right. A) Because someone who lived in my school district where rent was $600 a month - I had a house as part of the “gentrification” movement pre real estate bust - could pick up and move to a better school district like I did in the opposite side of the metro area over an hour away where the rent is now $2000/month. B) if minorities are treated differently in the same school district, why would the majority care? Are you now going to argue that if you are a minority and face statistically unequal treatment by the criminal justice system you should move out of the city? state? country?
    - burfog 6y ago
      Things are different, yes, but I'm not seeing any racism on the part of the school administration or school board. You are in "a high income district". You were in "lower income minority school district". I don't know the racial situation in your current district, though I could probably guess right. It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. The low-income people, on average, don't give a damn. Telling a parent about bad behavior will just generate a tirade of insults. Calling the police works, so that is done. It's unfair to the low-income people who aren't terrible. Well, life isn't fair. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated.
      - scarface74 6y ago
        It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". Hint: Not only are “some of my best friends Black”, my parents, my wife, my children, and all of my family is too. Please don’t go all “woke” on me. For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. Studies show that it happens in the same district... The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Right because poor people don’t care about education. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Uhh, this isn’t new. I went to a private school growing up. By definition if they were paying to go to the school I went to, they weren’t poor. I saw myself how much different the “bad” White kids were treated than the Black kids. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated. Oh that’s all I have to tell my six foot 3 son to do! Make sure he has one of his White friends with him (he usually does) when he hangs out so police won’t wonder what he’s doing in our part of town. He was going to walk from school one night down the street to a Waffle House after a football game to meet his other classmates. His friend group is like the rainbow coalition, but this one night he wasn’t sure whether his non-Black friends were going to the game and walking down there with him. We told him if not, just take an Uber. Two Black kids walking down the street were an easy target for harassment. Not by other kids - kids aren’t as stupid as the older generation - they were worried about being harassed by the cops.

by burfog 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

No, same district. Different punishment. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/03/police-punitive-policies-make-schools-less-safe-especially-minority-students/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/09/03/police-pun...

burfog 6y ago
Still, you elected a school board that would permit that difference, and you chose where to live. If telling parents gets students under control at one school, and it doesn't work at the other school, punishment will be different. You could get to that policy by trial and error, without any knowledge of the racial makeup of the student body.
- scarface74 6y ago
  Right. A) Because someone who lived in my school district where rent was $600 a month - I had a house as part of the “gentrification” movement pre real estate bust - could pick up and move to a better school district like I did in the opposite side of the metro area over an hour away where the rent is now $2000/month. B) if minorities are treated differently in the same school district, why would the majority care? Are you now going to argue that if you are a minority and face statistically unequal treatment by the criminal justice system you should move out of the city? state? country?
  - burfog 6y ago
    Things are different, yes, but I'm not seeing any racism on the part of the school administration or school board. You are in "a high income district". You were in "lower income minority school district". I don't know the racial situation in your current district, though I could probably guess right. It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. The low-income people, on average, don't give a damn. Telling a parent about bad behavior will just generate a tirade of insults. Calling the police works, so that is done. It's unfair to the low-income people who aren't terrible. Well, life isn't fair. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated.
    - scarface74 6y ago
      It's realistic, though not very nice, to imply that "minority" is the opposite of "high income". Hint: Not only are “some of my best friends Black”, my parents, my wife, my children, and all of my family is too. Please don’t go all “woke” on me. For the discipline difference, it's enough that there is an income difference. That explains everything. There is no need to mention race. Studies show that it happens in the same district... The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Right because poor people don’t care about education. The high-income people, of any race, care about education and discipline. Getting a kid to behave is usually as simple as telling the parents. Uhh, this isn’t new. I went to a private school growing up. By definition if they were paying to go to the school I went to, they weren’t poor. I saw myself how much different the “bad” White kids were treated than the Black kids. The group you associate with will determine how you are treated. Oh that’s all I have to tell my six foot 3 son to do! Make sure he has one of his White friends with him (he usually does) when he hangs out so police won’t wonder what he’s doing in our part of town. He was going to walk from school one night down the street to a Waffle House after a football game to meet his other classmates. His friend group is like the rainbow coalition, but this one night he wasn’t sure whether his non-Black friends were going to the game and walking down there with him. We told him if not, just take an Uber. Two Black kids walking down the street were an easy target for harassment. Not by other kids - kids aren’t as stupid as the older generation - they were worried about being harassed by the cops.