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> The best strategy is to simply comply with all relevant US law and orders issued by officials at the border. The best strategy is not to travel to the US at

> The best strategy is to simply comply with all relevant US law and orders issued by officials at the border. The best strategy is not to travel to the US at all, if you can avoid it. It's not even about not handing over data that they could have if they really wanted it. It's about sending a message that this behavior isn't OK and that foreigners are human beings too. The US doesn't care about your privacy, but it does care about its economy and so voting with your wallet is still the most power you have. Continuing to degrade yourself at the border at their whims condones their abuses, however implicitly.

samatman 6y ago
Every border on Earth already reserves the right to search your personal effects as thoroughly as they please, without any concept of probable cause being applicable. If they don't extend that into data located on devices you're carrying across the border, it isn't because they don't reserve the right, but merely because they lack the means or interest.
- AsyncAwait 6y ago
  > Every border on Earth already reserves the right to search your personal effects as thoroughly as they please You're correct, however this does not mean they all treat you like you should be the most thankful person of Earth for them letting you in and not harassing you endlessly. The U.S. even requires you to hand over social media passwords in some cases and a lot of personal information before you even get on the plane. The outright contempt for foreigners is not as common elsewhere. P.S. And of course, you have borders like between EU countries where you barely even notice you crossed a country border, (as an EU citizen).
  - Hnrobert42 6y ago
    I have experienced a lot more contempt from border officials in Europe than anywhere else, specifically Ireland and Italy. I haven’t seen anything where the U.S. requires gratitude. Is that a new policy, or just your opinion?
    - AsyncAwait 6y ago
      I guess it all depends on personal experience, but [1] seems pretty extreme to me. 1 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672
      - Hnrobert42 6y ago
        I don’t like that program, but I am not sure I would call it contemptuous.

samatman 6y ago

Every border on Earth already reserves the right to search your personal effects as thoroughly as they please, without any concept of probable cause being applicable. If they don't extend that into data located on devices you're carrying across the border, it isn't because they don't reserve the right, but merely because they lack the means or interest.

AsyncAwait 6y ago
> Every border on Earth already reserves the right to search your personal effects as thoroughly as they please You're correct, however this does not mean they all treat you like you should be the most thankful person of Earth for them letting you in and not harassing you endlessly. The U.S. even requires you to hand over social media passwords in some cases and a lot of personal information before you even get on the plane. The outright contempt for foreigners is not as common elsewhere. P.S. And of course, you have borders like between EU countries where you barely even notice you crossed a country border, (as an EU citizen).
- Hnrobert42 6y ago
  I have experienced a lot more contempt from border officials in Europe than anywhere else, specifically Ireland and Italy. I haven’t seen anything where the U.S. requires gratitude. Is that a new policy, or just your opinion?
  - AsyncAwait 6y ago
    I guess it all depends on personal experience, but [1] seems pretty extreme to me. 1 - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48486672
    - Hnrobert42 6y ago
      I don’t like that program, but I am not sure I would call it contemptuous.