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This is technically true and misses the point. Police are ordering paramedics to inject it. (edit: to be clear, I am saying that yes, ordering somebody else to
by JohnBooty 6y ago
This is technically true and misses the point. Police are ordering paramedics to inject it.
(edit: to be clear, I am saying that yes, ordering somebody else to do it is morally equivalent to doing it yourself... if it's wrong to do it yourself, it's just as wrong to order somebody else to do it)
Pointing out that the police aren't injecting it themselves is like pointing out that [insert name of murderous dictator here] didn't actually kill anybody with their own hands.
- GhostVII 6y agoThere is a huge difference between police injecting it and police ordering trained paramedics to inject it. The comment I was responding to was implying that it was dangerous for police to administer Ketamine because they are not trained, and I was saying that is not an issue since they are not the ones administering it. I don't think police should be ordering EMS to administer Ketamine, but even if they are that is far different from doing it themselves.
- vertex-four 6y agoThe decision of whether or not to administer any drug should always be in the hands of someone who knows what they’re doing, and if that decision is not made by the person receiving the drug it should be made by somebody sufficiently detached from the situation so that they can make a good clinical decision as to how to medically treat the person for a condition they are suffering from. A cop who has someone in a chokehold is not sufficiently detached from the situation. You cannot say “give them ketamine” and just leave the dose up to the paramedic and call it safe.
- JshWright 6y agoPolice cannot "order" a paramedic to do anything to a patient. They can phrase it as an order, and the paramedic _should_ tell them to get stuffed, but that doesn't always happen (clearly...)
- corty 6y agoOrdering a paramedic is as criminal as doing it themselves. "Suggesting" it might be fine if the paramedics are free to say "no", but ordering using medication by non-doctors is criminal behaviour over here...