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If you are worried about American intelligence don't use anything based in the US.
by throwmeaway2344 6y ago
If you are worried about American intelligence don't use anything based in the US.
- ekianjo 6y agoYou can say the same thing for anything based outside of the US. You think China-based services don't have the CCP spy on their users, like TikTok?
- throwaway936482 6y agoYeah but if you're an American you probably have more to worry about if American intelligence agencies and law enforcement are spying on you than if it's the Chinese and vice versa
- torgian 6y agoI’d argue the opposite. I’m China they can just kidnap you. In America, at least there are rules.
- ploika 6y agoExtraordinary rendition wasn't all that different from just kidnapping people.
- ganafagol 6y agoBut that's not what your parent post is about. It's about that in America, you need to worry more about U.S. surveillance than about Chinese surveillance. And when in China, you need to worry more about Chinese surveillance than American surveillance. What you state has nothing to do with that. If I understand you right, you are saying that you should be more worried in China than in the U.S. overall. That might be true, I can't judge. I can imagine there are rules in China too, maybe they are just not so pleasent? And I suspect some folks in Portland have some mixed feelings about the "just kidnap" part too.
- ekianjo 6y agoYou think China's reach does not extend outside of its frontiers?
- pyrale 6y agoYou can't really compare the US, an active empire with documented testimonies of spying on individuals and, e.g. Ireland, Switzerland or most other european countries. At some point, if China is the comparison point you always cite when someone talks about the US, it starts to seem like they are actually comparable.