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Well, Apple Maps, Photos, Siri, and Messages. (I'd be willing to pay a subscription fee to have them on Android. As is, I just do without, and deal with ridicu

Well, Apple Maps, Photos, Siri, and Messages. (I'd be willing to pay a subscription fee to have them on Android. As is, I just do without, and deal with ridiculous workarounds like having my Android phone save my photos to OneDrive and them manually copying them over to Photos on my Mac.)

scarface74 6y ago
Really? I’m an iPhone user and even I admit that Google Maps, Google Photos and whatever Google is calling their voice assistant today are better. If I were serious about photos I would use Lightroom.
- Marsymars 6y ago
  Well I've got some specific points for each of them: Maps: Google Maps is drastically better from a POI standpoint, particularly for reviews, as it's become the de facto standard for restaurant reviews in my locale, while Apple Maps just imports the graveyard of Yelp reviews, and GMaps is mildly better for routing. That being said, Google Maps has ads, which is enough for me that I'd preferentially pay for Apple Maps to avoid ads for anything other than restaurant reviews. As is, I use a Garmin GPS in my car in large part because of my annoyance with Google Maps. Photos: For desktop software, Photos on macOS is fine for my use, and significantly improved over the past few years. (I abandoned Lightroom after Adobe's previous macOS file-deletion snafu a few years ago.) I have no interest in a web-based photo editor/management software rather than a desktop one. Apple's photo recognition stuff is generally done on-device, which is preferable to me over a cloud service. Voice assistants: They're pretty much all equivalent in terms of accuracy for my use. (Setting timers, setting alarms, controlling my lights and music.) The killer feature of Siri/HomeKit is that it processes commands locally, so my lights respond instantly rather than needing to bounce my requests to Amazon/Google HQs for processing. And Apple has generally better privacy policies.
  - pseudalopex 6y ago
    Siri doesn't work locally.
    - Marsymars 6y ago
      Hm, seems you're right - I think what I must have been remembering was comparing control of home automation products via Alexa/Google (voice and app are similarly responsive) to non-voice HomeKit control. (But even Siri voice seems more responsive than e.g. Alexa voice for Hue, presumably because commands just bounce to Apple and back to me, rather than to Amazon, then to Philips, then back to me.) I don't actually use voice control on phone, so I guess what I actually want on my Android phone is just HomeKit, and not Siri. (Would also let me switch my camera to HomeKit Secure Video, which I can't practically use with my primary carry being an Android phone, despite owning all of the prerequisites.)
- mijoharas 6y ago
  I agree with you on every point except the last. Now might be a bad time to recommend Lightroom given their last update permanently wiped people's photos[0]. Having agreed with you, there is a non-insignificant switching cost (in time) for photos, especially if something is your primary photo store. [0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/iphone-and-ipad-photos-permanently-wiped-as-adobe-bungles-ios-lightroom-app-update/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/articl...

scarface74 6y ago

Really? I’m an iPhone user and even I admit that Google Maps, Google Photos and whatever Google is calling their voice assistant today are better. If I were serious about photos I would use Lightroom.

Marsymars 6y ago
Well I've got some specific points for each of them: Maps: Google Maps is drastically better from a POI standpoint, particularly for reviews, as it's become the de facto standard for restaurant reviews in my locale, while Apple Maps just imports the graveyard of Yelp reviews, and GMaps is mildly better for routing. That being said, Google Maps has ads, which is enough for me that I'd preferentially pay for Apple Maps to avoid ads for anything other than restaurant reviews. As is, I use a Garmin GPS in my car in large part because of my annoyance with Google Maps. Photos: For desktop software, Photos on macOS is fine for my use, and significantly improved over the past few years. (I abandoned Lightroom after Adobe's previous macOS file-deletion snafu a few years ago.) I have no interest in a web-based photo editor/management software rather than a desktop one. Apple's photo recognition stuff is generally done on-device, which is preferable to me over a cloud service. Voice assistants: They're pretty much all equivalent in terms of accuracy for my use. (Setting timers, setting alarms, controlling my lights and music.) The killer feature of Siri/HomeKit is that it processes commands locally, so my lights respond instantly rather than needing to bounce my requests to Amazon/Google HQs for processing. And Apple has generally better privacy policies.
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Siri doesn't work locally.
  - Marsymars 6y ago
    Hm, seems you're right - I think what I must have been remembering was comparing control of home automation products via Alexa/Google (voice and app are similarly responsive) to non-voice HomeKit control. (But even Siri voice seems more responsive than e.g. Alexa voice for Hue, presumably because commands just bounce to Apple and back to me, rather than to Amazon, then to Philips, then back to me.) I don't actually use voice control on phone, so I guess what I actually want on my Android phone is just HomeKit, and not Siri. (Would also let me switch my camera to HomeKit Secure Video, which I can't practically use with my primary carry being an Android phone, despite owning all of the prerequisites.)
mijoharas 6y ago
I agree with you on every point except the last. Now might be a bad time to recommend Lightroom given their last update permanently wiped people's photos[0]. Having agreed with you, there is a non-insignificant switching cost (in time) for photos, especially if something is your primary photo store. [0] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/iphone-and-ipad-photos-permanently-wiped-as-adobe-bungles-ios-lightroom-app-update/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/articl...