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I hope I'm not not regurgitating false information (I'm finding it difficult to find a reputable primary source, since there's a lot of clearly pro-ketamine sit
by qchris 6y ago
I hope I'm not not regurgitating false information (I'm finding it difficult to find a reputable primary source, since there's a lot of clearly pro-ketamine sites), but I was under the impression that one of the reasons that ketamine has been used both in people and in applications like as a horse tranquilizer is that it's safe dosage range is considerably wide, presenting some margin of error over similar drugs.
Obviously it's more than he should have been given (and tbh am pretty uncomfortable with it being given here at all), but my decidedly non-expert opinion (and the official autopsy statement that the "ketamine in McClain's blood was at 'tolerable levels' ") is that there's all sorts of red flags about this situation.
- sneak 6y ago3-4mg/kg is more than sufficient for subduing an adult human. 7-10mg/kg will cause unconsciousness, and is dangerous without CLOSE airway monitoring. Injecting a suspect with a drug without medical necessity or consent is a major human rights issue, and you wouldn’t be far off if you called it rape. The whole thing is quite obviously pig lies; they had dogs and tasers on this 140lb black man who they had already had multiple cops choking out. Nothing about their dodge adds up.
- anon9001 6y agohttps://erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml https://erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml My goodness that's a lot of ketamine. A "strong" recreational dose would be about 1mg/kg. 2.5mg/kg and the person is anesthetized.
- jdietrich 6y ago7-10mg/kg will cause unconsciousness, and is dangerous without CLOSE airway monitoring. Just barely dangerous. You might see a bit of transient respiratory depression, but the risk of respiratory arrest or clinically significant hypoxia is very low even in an out-of-hospital setting. We have case reports of paediatric patients receiving as much as 50mg/kg without significant ill effect. https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0196-0644(99)80051-1 https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1016/S0196-0644(99)800...
- sneak 6y agoI think perhaps you assume empty stomach, such as in a normal setting. Those doses are puke probability 1.0 range, which is lifethreatening if the person is unconscious and unmonitored. Ketamine doesn’t really depress respiration that much. If the airway is physically obstructed, however, because nobody had their eye on him...
- GordonS 6y agoIt's probably quite dangerous in this kind of setting though, where the person has likely already been beaten, tasered and choked.