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It's not really practical to develop apps for iOS without owning an iPhone. Yes, there is a simulator available which you can run on Mac OS in a VM or on a Hack

It's not really practical to develop apps for iOS without owning an iPhone. Yes, there is a simulator available which you can run on Mac OS in a VM or on a Hackintosh, but you still will need a real device at the end of the day. Certain features like in-app purchases can only be tested on real devices. Furthermore, the App Review Board has the power to reject your app at any time until you provide them with a demonstration video which must be screen recorded on a real physical device, and on this ridiculous and unnecessary hoop to jump through I am speaking from personal experience. Of course, you could always have a personal Android device and an iPhone solely for development purposes. Apple tries to force you to own a Mac and at least one iOS device (be it iPhone or iPad) to develop apps for the App Store. This is yet another example of their corporate greed. You can develop Android apps on Windows, Mac, or Linux, and there's no need for a physical device.

tomnipotent 6y ago
> It's not really practical to develop apps for iOS without owning an iPhone This applies to all platforms. I wouldn't want to do business with a developer that doesn't own the device they're developing for, we learned that lesson with Blackberry thank you.
- scarface74 6y ago
  The CEO of Google refused to use an Android device for years.... https://9to5google.com/2013/03/21/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-admits-he-still-hasnt-kicked-the-crack-blackberry-habit/ https://9to5google.com/2013/03/21/google-chairman-eric-schmi...
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    at least Eric Schmidt did it because he was used to Blackberry, which was better than iOS and Android when they both came out Steve Jobs didn't let his kids around an iPad because it was dangerous for them In an interview he said: “Actually we don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them in effect.” I think we can trust Steve Jobs when he talks about his (baby) products
    - lilbopete 6y ago
      Reading the article above, it looks like it was from 2013. Android and iOS has both been out for awhile by then and Blackberry was falling being.
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        AFAIK as a former blackberry user (my job required to use one to adhere to our clients' security protocols) 2013 was the peak year for Blackberry
        scarface74 6y ago
        https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/company/newsroom/press-releases/2013/blackberry-reports-fourth-quarter-and-year-end-results-for-fiscal-2013 https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/company/newsroom/press-rele... $94 million income. RIM was definitely in decline by then. Both the iOS and Android market were very much mature 7 years after the iPhone was introduced.
        romanoderoma 6y ago
        "At its peak in September 2013, there were 85 million BlackBerry subscribers worldwide." I never said that they made more money but that the platform was generally better for executives In 2012 I had a blackberry because clients that had strict security rules (one of them was in the diamonds business) allowed blackberrys but not other smartphones in their offices
- arvinsim 6y ago
  Any developer would gladly do so as long as you shoulder the purchasing of the hardware or subscribe to a SaaS that provides such service.

tomnipotent 6y ago

> It's not really practical to develop apps for iOS without owning an iPhone This applies to all platforms. I wouldn't want to do business with a developer that doesn't own the device they're developing for, we learned that lesson with Blackberry thank you.

scarface74 6y ago
The CEO of Google refused to use an Android device for years.... https://9to5google.com/2013/03/21/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-admits-he-still-hasnt-kicked-the-crack-blackberry-habit/ https://9to5google.com/2013/03/21/google-chairman-eric-schmi...
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  at least Eric Schmidt did it because he was used to Blackberry, which was better than iOS and Android when they both came out Steve Jobs didn't let his kids around an iPad because it was dangerous for them In an interview he said: “Actually we don’t allow the iPad in the home. We think it’s too dangerous for them in effect.” I think we can trust Steve Jobs when he talks about his (baby) products
  - lilbopete 6y ago
    Reading the article above, it looks like it was from 2013. Android and iOS has both been out for awhile by then and Blackberry was falling being.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      AFAIK as a former blackberry user (my job required to use one to adhere to our clients' security protocols) 2013 was the peak year for Blackberry
      - scarface74 6y ago
        https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/company/newsroom/press-releases/2013/blackberry-reports-fourth-quarter-and-year-end-results-for-fiscal-2013 https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/company/newsroom/press-rele... $94 million income. RIM was definitely in decline by then. Both the iOS and Android market were very much mature 7 years after the iPhone was introduced.
        romanoderoma 6y ago
        "At its peak in September 2013, there were 85 million BlackBerry subscribers worldwide." I never said that they made more money but that the platform was generally better for executives In 2012 I had a blackberry because clients that had strict security rules (one of them was in the diamonds business) allowed blackberrys but not other smartphones in their offices
arvinsim 6y ago
Any developer would gladly do so as long as you shoulder the purchasing of the hardware or subscribe to a SaaS that provides such service.