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And let's not forget being assumed to be a spammer by almost all sites, getting rate limited or shadowbanned, not to mention being buried with captchas and havi

And let's not forget being assumed to be a spammer by almost all sites, getting rate limited or shadowbanned, not to mention being buried with captchas and having to do unpaid labor to train Google's AI just to access some sites! If you're not outright blocked, that is. All for having an IP address originating from such regions with cheap internet that you can't do much with anyway.

amingilani 6y ago
Oh yeah, I have experienced that for a lot of my life. I didn't realize that that wasn't normal, though. I haven't experienced Canadian internet for long enough. However, I can definitely say that I have had to solve a lot of captchas and can recall at least one incident where I could only have been banned because I was from Pakistan.
- Scapeghost 6y ago
  It happens often on Reddit, which is really bad with their shadowbanning and associating you with other accounts that you have nothing to do with, probably because crappy ISPs reuse IP addresses for multiple users.
  - amingilani 6y ago
    Some ISPs also use a carrier-grade NAT so multiple users share an IP address.
    - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
      Isn't this almost universally the case for mobile data?
      - fomine3 6y ago
        Possibly IPv6 support on both ISP and web service solves this issue.
      - amingilani 6y ago
        I suppose so, but I know of multiple Pakistani ISPs that do this with their fiber offerings as well. I don't know if it's standard practice, though.
hombre_fatal 6y ago
"Unpaid labor to work for Google" a trite, popular meme, but your compensation is access to the site you want access to. You can thank bad actors for that arrangement.
908B64B197 6y ago
That really has nothing to do with the quality of the connection (what kind of bandwidth/ping and availability). It's people misbehaving that causes these types of ban and who are voting for pro-censorship government. They could remove these restrictions overnight if they wanted to.

amingilani 6y ago

Oh yeah, I have experienced that for a lot of my life. I didn't realize that that wasn't normal, though. I haven't experienced Canadian internet for long enough. However, I can definitely say that I have had to solve a lot of captchas and can recall at least one incident where I could only have been banned because I was from Pakistan.

Scapeghost 6y ago
It happens often on Reddit, which is really bad with their shadowbanning and associating you with other accounts that you have nothing to do with, probably because crappy ISPs reuse IP addresses for multiple users.
- amingilani 6y ago
  Some ISPs also use a carrier-grade NAT so multiple users share an IP address.
  - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
    Isn't this almost universally the case for mobile data?
    - fomine3 6y ago
      Possibly IPv6 support on both ISP and web service solves this issue.
    - amingilani 6y ago
      I suppose so, but I know of multiple Pakistani ISPs that do this with their fiber offerings as well. I don't know if it's standard practice, though.

hombre_fatal 6y ago

"Unpaid labor to work for Google" a trite, popular meme, but your compensation is access to the site you want access to. You can thank bad actors for that arrangement.

908B64B197 6y ago

That really has nothing to do with the quality of the connection (what kind of bandwidth/ping and availability). It's people misbehaving that causes these types of ban and who are voting for pro-censorship government. They could remove these restrictions overnight if they wanted to.