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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048

by m-_- 6y ago

chrisseaton 6y ago
Thanks, but that explains absolutely nothing. Even the guy being fired says 'I haven't got a clue'. The say that they want to develop a new visitor centre because they have lottery funding, but I don't see why that means they can't work with the National Museum of Computing. Why doesn't the interview just ask them 'just tell me what is the problem here?' I don't understand how we get these news reports that explain nothing.
- m-_- 6y ago
  I personally thought it was reasonably clear. Bletchley park estate split into two museums, one large one small. Tour guide from large museum takes visitors to small museum too as this is a major part of the story (i.e colossus, the bomb, witch) allowed for a number of years, now against policy (basically to pretend the small museum does not exist/is not worth visiting) and as such volunteer fired for his transgression. Not in the video, but worth noting is that the small museum are a tenant of the large museum who get use of the estate basically free from Govt.
  - chrisseaton 6y ago
    > I personally thought it was reasonably clear. Well I must be mad because I still can't understand it from your explanation. I know it's against policy to take them to the smaller museum and this is why he was fired... but... why? Why did they make it against policy? Why do they not want to work with the other museum? Why do they not get along? > basically to pretend the small museum does not exist/is not worth visiting Why do they want to pretend that the small museum does not exist and is not worth visiting? There's like ten fundamental and completely unexplained why's still left after your explanation. I don't know how that can be 'reasonably clear'.
    - Animats 6y ago
      The Computer Museum in Mountain View has a similar problem. The museum management and the people restoring old computers don't get along.
      - ElCapitanMarkla 6y ago
        This is a really common theme in the museum space. I’ve worked with a lot of museums over the last 10+ years and just about every single one has a very us vs them feel when it comes to upper management. I don’t know if every government department ends up like that but these ones here certainly do.
    - aaronblohowiak 6y ago
      Territorial pissing is a regrettably common — innate? — portion of the human experience that when reading the grandparent post I was just like “ugh, people.” There probably is some string of triggering incidents or resource contention but at the end of the day separate institutions are naturally inclined to competition not collaboration. Especially in highly politicized environments as things historical or museum tend to be.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048

by m-_- 6y ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-25916048

Thanks, but that explains absolutely nothing. Even the guy being fired says 'I haven't got a clue'. The say that they want to develop a new visitor centre because they have lottery funding, but I don't see why that means they can't work with the National Museum of Computing. Why doesn't the interview just ask them 'just tell me what is the problem here?' I don't understand how we get these news reports that explain nothing.

m-_- 6y ago
I personally thought it was reasonably clear. Bletchley park estate split into two museums, one large one small. Tour guide from large museum takes visitors to small museum too as this is a major part of the story (i.e colossus, the bomb, witch) allowed for a number of years, now against policy (basically to pretend the small museum does not exist/is not worth visiting) and as such volunteer fired for his transgression. Not in the video, but worth noting is that the small museum are a tenant of the large museum who get use of the estate basically free from Govt.
- chrisseaton 6y ago
  > I personally thought it was reasonably clear. Well I must be mad because I still can't understand it from your explanation. I know it's against policy to take them to the smaller museum and this is why he was fired... but... why? Why did they make it against policy? Why do they not want to work with the other museum? Why do they not get along? > basically to pretend the small museum does not exist/is not worth visiting Why do they want to pretend that the small museum does not exist and is not worth visiting? There's like ten fundamental and completely unexplained why's still left after your explanation. I don't know how that can be 'reasonably clear'.
  - Animats 6y ago
    The Computer Museum in Mountain View has a similar problem. The museum management and the people restoring old computers don't get along.
    - ElCapitanMarkla 6y ago
      This is a really common theme in the museum space. I’ve worked with a lot of museums over the last 10+ years and just about every single one has a very us vs them feel when it comes to upper management. I don’t know if every government department ends up like that but these ones here certainly do.
  - aaronblohowiak 6y ago
    Territorial pissing is a regrettably common — innate? — portion of the human experience that when reading the grandparent post I was just like “ugh, people.” There probably is some string of triggering incidents or resource contention but at the end of the day separate institutions are naturally inclined to competition not collaboration. Especially in highly politicized environments as things historical or museum tend to be.