6 ms·
I'm Italian and I pay ~9 euros per month for 130 GB of uncapped 4G mobile Internet, so I can't really complain about it. Some new offers I've seen are as low as
by qalmakka 6y ago
I'm Italian and I pay ~9 euros per month for 130 GB of uncapped 4G mobile Internet, so I can't really complain about it. Some new offers I've seen are as low as 6.99 for 100 GB + infinite calls. A few days ago I told this to a friend of mine who lives in the UK and he was shocked because he pays a lot more for like 2GB a month.
I guess healthy competition can really be good for consumers when it works as it is supposed to.
- StavrosK 6y agoMeanwhile, Greece with its telecom cartel is a few spots from last, with such good company as Turkmenistan, the Virgin Islands and, for some reason, Canada. I might as well get a SIM shipped to me from Italy every three months or so, it'll be lots cheaper.
- t- 6y agoCanada also has a telecom cartel. The CRTC, which is the gov't regulatory body (and which is controlled by the telecoms), limits access to the market.
- throw0101a 6y ago> The CRTC, which is the gov't regulatory body (and which is controlled by the telecoms), limits access to the market. The CRTC does not limit access to the market, the elected government does. For national security purposes foreign ownership is restricted: > As it stands now [in 2018], foreign ownership of a telecommunications company is limited to no more than 20 per cent of a company’s voting shares and no more than 33.3 per cent of the voting shares of a carrier’s holding company, and an effective total limit of 46.7 per cent (as long as the foreign entity doesn’t have control). On top of that, at least 80 per cent of the board members must be Canadian citizens. * https://financialpost.com/telecom/tight-reins-leaves-our-telecom-sector-open-to-criticism-but-sadly-not-competition https://financialpost.com/telecom/tight-reins-leaves-our-tel... See Telecommunications Act, Section 16. That dictates only domestic companies can really do much, which is the incumbents of Bell, Telus, Rogers, etc. Reduce foreign operator restrictions and foreign operators may come into the market and provide more competition.
- voisin 6y agoYes, “national security” is used to justify all manner of protectionism in this country. We sure love our oligopolies.
- noarchy 6y ago>Yes, “national security” is used to justify all manner of protectionism in this country. We sure love our oligopolies. That and outright monopolies created by the government itself.
- rapind 6y agoYou know, with the amount of data some companies and governments are slurping up it might almost be justified... of course as a 5 eyes nation it's also pretty damn hypocritical.
- throw0101a 6y ago> You know, with the amount of data some companies and governments are slurping up it might almost be justified Which is why Bell Canada not peering at TorIX (and other Canadian IXPs) really annoys me. (Rogers, Telus, Cogeco, TekSavvy, etc, do.) * https://www.cira.ca/improving-canadas-internet/initiatives/canadas-internet-infrastructure-internet-exchange-points https://www.cira.ca/improving-canadas-internet/initiatives/c... Even major cloud hosting companies (AWS, Digital Ocean, OVH) have Canadian build-outs for folks that are sensitive to domestic/international issues, and yet if connect with Bell your traffic tends to go to Chicago and then back.
- baybal2 6y agoCanada also has a government monopoly on milk, and wheat out of all things.
- spapas82 6y agoWhat's more funny to the Greek mobile internet comedy (or maybe drama for us greeks) is that before 1 year, after the elections, the new prime minister asked nicely the telecom operators to offer cheaper mobile internet. The operators agreed of course. The result? There were some mocking offers in the form of double GB for the same price right after the meeting (ie instead of 10 euros/1 gb you'd get 10 euros/2 gb). After 1 year nothing more. The telecom operators think that we are in the 2000 where mobile internet is something that only company executives need... I think the time has come for the government to stop asking nicely for cheap mobile internet and force the operators to align with the rest of Europe.
- StavrosK 6y agoThey should just break up the cartel and let them compete normally, that would take care of everything else. How to break up a cartel of the richest people in a corrupt society is a different issue...
- simonklitj 6y agoWhat's the possibility of buying a cheap data SIM-card in Bulgaria (or somewhere else) and using the EU-roaming laws to get cheap data in Greece?
- gabrielblack 6y agoWhich operator ? I'm interested.
- mumblerino 6y agoSame. As far as I know, HO mobile is the cheapest one at 6€ for 70GB
- qalmakka 6y agoIf you get the right winback or operator attack promotions you can get amazing deals with the major MNOs.
- mumblerino 6y agoI think you should specify that when making wild claims as if they’re the norms. Even that “6.99 for 100 GB” is unfounded currently.
- qalmakka 6y agoFor instance, https://verymobile.it/ https://verymobile.it/ (new MVNO from WindTre) has a 6.99 / 100GB promotion (if you switch from certain operators)
- seanalltogether 6y agoO2 in the UK offers 2GB for £12 a month as its lowest plan, but it's a really dumb plan to be on since you can get 100GB for only £20 a month.
- Tijdreiziger 6y agoNot really dumb if you only use a GB or so a month anyway. I have a 7GB plan despite using less than 1GB a month, because that's the next plan up after 1GB (and I like to have some wiggle room above 1GB)
- ubercow13 6y agoUK isn’t that bad. I pay £20 for unlimited data with tethering, and it’s faster than my home broadband. I used more than 1TB one month.
- znpy 6y agoItalian here too, I pay 5.99 €/month for 30gb (never really experienced caps). Iliad is the provider. SMS texts and calls are also free and unlimited. Iliad is pretty great. Given that by law there are both a minimum number of players and incentives for the entry of a new players, Iliad managed to get pretty awesome pretty fast.
- carlob 6y agoI think I have the same plan. I have to say the only thing I'm missing (and I would gladly pay 2 euros more for) is global (or at least EU) free SMS while not roaming.
- mumblerino 6y agoFree global messaging isn’t gonna happen. It’s not like internal messaging which is essentially free, but if you send a message to Congo, they want real money to deliver the message.
- znpy 6y agoMeh, as long as I have internet connectivity I don't need texts. Iliad includes 2gb free in roaming mode, as gp correctly pointed out (I forgot about that, but it was very handy when I was in Leipzig during last CCC).
- mumblerino 6y agoEuropean roaming is very different from “global messaging”. I assume you were trying to reply to the same person, not me. I don’t need global messaging either. Also FYI it’s 4gb. I know because I just ran out of it.
- 7ewis 6y agoIt depends entirely on the plan you get. I'm from the UK and pay £5 for unlimited data, which admittedly is better than most plans here.