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> Not sure why society should care (beyond preventing people been radicalised into becoming a danger I guess). What I find most interesting about this reactio

by Kalium 6y ago

> Not sure why society should care (beyond preventing people been radicalised into becoming a danger I guess). What I find most interesting about this reaction is that it often comes from people who wholeheartedly believe in kindness, compassion, and empathy. In almost every other context. Yet for these people, they're told that their feelings don't matter while everyone else's does. No wonder they sometimes react poorly. Perhaps if we want to avert their radicalization, we could consider the possibility of treating them with the same sensitivity we readily offer others when they express subjective pain and suffering.

Igelau 6y ago
> people who wholeheartedly believe in kindness, compassion, and empathy. In almost every other context. Equality of outcome for all animals, but some animals are more equal than others.
LandR 6y ago
It's not that their feelings don't matter, it's that their is nothing anyone can do for them. I'm very ugly, I'm very single. I don't expect anyone to do anything about it for me. You just have to get on with life and make the best of it. Be a nice person and try to enjoy yourself. If the worst thing you have to deal with in life is having a sub-optimal face then you're probably pretty luck! Act like it.
- Kalium 6y ago
  In my limited personal experience, the emotional journey of "Shut up, nobody cares about your feelings you overprivileged ass" is very different from that of "That sounds very painful, I'm so sorry you're going through that". I'm sure others have had different experiences. As you say, there often isn't anything obviously actionable. It's just that in some cases, for some people, going from nothing actionable to dismissive can be a good way to convince them to find people who at least offer a hint of empathy. Again, you're completely right. There's absolutely nothing anyone can do for them. Except, I think it might be the case that listening with sincerity might be an option.

by Kalium 6y ago

Igelau 6y ago

> people who wholeheartedly believe in kindness, compassion, and empathy. In almost every other context. Equality of outcome for all animals, but some animals are more equal than others.

LandR 6y ago

It's not that their feelings don't matter, it's that their is nothing anyone can do for them. I'm very ugly, I'm very single. I don't expect anyone to do anything about it for me. You just have to get on with life and make the best of it. Be a nice person and try to enjoy yourself. If the worst thing you have to deal with in life is having a sub-optimal face then you're probably pretty luck! Act like it.

Kalium 6y ago
In my limited personal experience, the emotional journey of "Shut up, nobody cares about your feelings you overprivileged ass" is very different from that of "That sounds very painful, I'm so sorry you're going through that". I'm sure others have had different experiences. As you say, there often isn't anything obviously actionable. It's just that in some cases, for some people, going from nothing actionable to dismissive can be a good way to convince them to find people who at least offer a hint of empathy. Again, you're completely right. There's absolutely nothing anyone can do for them. Except, I think it might be the case that listening with sincerity might be an option.