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> But if crookedness lends a castle its beauty, it does the opposite to a face — and nothing concerns Mew more than the proliferation of ugly faces, which he co
by im3w1l 6y ago
> But if crookedness lends a castle its beauty, it does the opposite to a face — and nothing concerns Mew more than the proliferation of ugly faces, which he considers a modern epidemic. In the process, [The Mews] they’ve become popular among incels, the “involuntary celibate” young men who congregate online and who explain their lack of romantic success through a toxic and misogynistic ideology.
I don't understand, it sounds like they explain it with being ugly and try to fix it? But why do they go to this fringe science instead of proven solutions like plastic surgery?
- pjc50 6y ago> But why do they go to this fringe science instead of proven solutions like plastic surgery? Other way round: the problem itself is fringe pseudo science. The solution needs to be marketed, so people must be convinced that there is something wrong with them. People love pseudo science these days.
- im3w1l 6y agoBut there is something wrong with them, or else they would get laid. If people swipe the wrong way it must be either the looks or the composition of photos?
- rsynnott 6y agoOr, I mean, their personality, possibly? Plenty of ugly people out there with partners.
- redis_mlc 6y agoOnline dating apps and initial swiping have been shown to depend almost solely on facial appearance, not personality. This Mewing procedure sounds perfect for people who are not getting swiped, actually.
- im3w1l 6y agoIf you use tinder, being ugly it makes things much harder. But there are other avenues where it doesn't matter as much. I've had very sweet friends though who struggled with those other avenues too because they worked in software (meeting few women at work) and were homebodies so didn't meet women in free time either. If they changed their entire life style around for the purpose of finding a woman maybe that could work, but it's a steep cost to pay without guaranteed success.
- elric 6y agoWhat do you mean the problem is pseudo science? Crooked teeth are clearly visible. So are narrow faces. The incidence of sleep apnea (even in skinny people) is staggering. Are you saying these aren't real problems?
- stupidcar 6y agoAFAIK, some do advocate having surgery. But plastic surgery is expensive and scary, whereas "Mewing" is a pretty basic set of exercises you can do for free. If you want to get more psychological about it, perhaps there's a difference in attitude between surgery, which could be said to be constructing a falsehood to cover up the (literally) ugly truth of your own relative inferiority, versus Mewing, which is pitched as more akin to a workout regime to fix something that was unwittingly done to you by modern living. As such, your current face becomes the falsehood, and Mewing is how you reveal the real truth of how you should look. This might seem to be over-analysis, but I think, in these kinds of communities, narratives matter just as much, perhaps more, than actions. The problem these people have isn't just their situation, but how they feel about the situation. The depression, sense of inadequacy, etc. These feelings can be relieved by explanations that say it isn't you that's wrong, it's the world that's wrong, but that you retain control enough to fix things through the application of will.
- Marsymars 6y agoWell it's easier, cheaper, and healthier to feed your kids chewy whole foods (and it's what they should be eating anyway!) rather than them getting plastic surgery as adults.
- elric 6y agoReferring to plastic surgery as a "proven solution" is a bit of a stretch. The success rate of even "simple" things like straightening a crooked nose is abysmal. Reconstructive surgery (e.g. after an accident) definitely has its place. But unlike what Hollywood would have you believe, you can't make people look like different a person using plastic surgery. It isn't magic. There is scarring. There is risk of severe complications. Especially if you're talking about reshaping the facial bones.
- im3w1l 6y agoIn South Korea more than a third of women get plastic surgery. And it seems to work out well for them.