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This aligns with my experience in London. I spent a good couple hours troubleshooting my phone until someone told me the entire telecom had an outage. Somethi

This aligns with my experience in London. I spent a good couple hours troubleshooting my phone until someone told me the entire telecom had an outage. Something I've never seen in the US. This happened twice in the short time I was there and this was with their largest network provider.

Nextgrid 6y ago
I don’t think it’s fair to compare carriers based on a unique outage; however the US does have something going for them: national roaming. Typically carriers have arrangements between them to use competitors’ networks in areas where their own ones are unavailable. This is unheard of in Europe which is a shame; it would be a much more efficient use of the spectrum if any subscriber could connect to any available carrier.
- kergonath 6y ago
  We have EU-wide roaming, so it’s not really unheard of. At the national level, it depends on local laws, though.
pilsetnieks 6y ago
> Something I've never seen in the US T-Mobile: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/17/21293950/t-mobile-outage-june-explainer https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/17/21293950/t-mobile-outage-... Verizon: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/01/31/verizon-outage-customers-outage-north-carolina-experiencing-massive-outages-throughout-north-carolin/4622884002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/01/31/verizon-outage... AT&T: https://www.kltv.com/2020/08/17/att-outage-affecting-customers-emergency-agencies/ https://www.kltv.com/2020/08/17/att-outage-affecting-custome... Sprint: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2020/07/22/did-your-sprint-service-go-out-recently-this-guy-may-be-to-blame/ https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2020/07/22/di... All of them together: https://9to5mac.com/2020/06/15/t-mobile-att-verizon-outage/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/06/15/t-mobile-att-verizon-outage/
- fossuser 6y ago
  Fair point - though in those cases they did make the news. (The entire US is also just a much bigger place with a lot more cities, but you’re right that I did make that comparison.) The London outages seemed common enough to not be news. Hard to say without more data though.
kergonath 6y ago
There was one large outage a couple of years ago. Other than that, I haven’t seen one in a decade. At least not at the level of the entire network; obviously local issues are more common, particularly in harsh weather.

Nextgrid 6y ago

I don’t think it’s fair to compare carriers based on a unique outage; however the US does have something going for them: national roaming. Typically carriers have arrangements between them to use competitors’ networks in areas where their own ones are unavailable. This is unheard of in Europe which is a shame; it would be a much more efficient use of the spectrum if any subscriber could connect to any available carrier.

kergonath 6y ago
We have EU-wide roaming, so it’s not really unheard of. At the national level, it depends on local laws, though.

pilsetnieks 6y ago

> Something I've never seen in the US T-Mobile: https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/17/21293950/t-mobile-outage-june-explainer https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/17/21293950/t-mobile-outage-... Verizon: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/01/31/verizon-outage-customers-outage-north-carolina-experiencing-massive-outages-throughout-north-carolin/4622884002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/01/31/verizon-outage... AT&T: https://www.kltv.com/2020/08/17/att-outage-affecting-customers-emergency-agencies/ https://www.kltv.com/2020/08/17/att-outage-affecting-custome... Sprint: https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2020/07/22/did-your-sprint-service-go-out-recently-this-guy-may-be-to-blame/ https://www.dallasnews.com/business/technology/2020/07/22/di... All of them together: https://9to5mac.com/2020/06/15/t-mobile-att-verizon-outage/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/06/15/t-mobile-att-verizon-outage/

fossuser 6y ago
Fair point - though in those cases they did make the news. (The entire US is also just a much bigger place with a lot more cities, but you’re right that I did make that comparison.) The London outages seemed common enough to not be news. Hard to say without more data though.

kergonath 6y ago

There was one large outage a couple of years ago. Other than that, I haven’t seen one in a decade. At least not at the level of the entire network; obviously local issues are more common, particularly in harsh weather.