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Fastmail also wants a phone number. I no longer know what mail service to use apart from setting it all up myself.

alpaca128 6y ago
mailbox.org does not require a phone number. It also includes its own calendar sync and online office suite(although I've never really tried the office functionality myself). I've been using it for a few years now and I can't complain.
prox 6y ago
I like protonmail myself, take a look at that.
iimblack 6y ago
Tutanota seems like the safest and most secure option I’ve been able to find.
brongondwana 6y ago
Unfortunately we still need some kind of signal that you're a unique person at signup to avoid infinite fraud (as it is we still get waves of thousands of accounts at a time who have worked out a way to get their hands on a pile of numbers and are finessing an attack on someone else via us). You can delete the number once you've signed up, though of course that means that if you forget your password is reduces the channels by which we can validate that you're the same person! (this is also quite common: many HN users would be surprised how often people forget passwords)
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  Those people can also stop paying you and just wait until you recycle their email address. No password recovery needed when it's up for anyone to grab.
  - brongondwana 6y ago
    Apart from that we're no longer recycling email addresses as fast as we used to (except for trials that never paid, they only get prescribed for a short time) that doesn't work so well for getting access to your existing email!
malinens 6y ago
I work for inbox.eu It is based in European Union and has 20 years experience as e-mail provider We do not require phone number for premium users. If You are using free trial version You still need to verify phone number to test e-mail sending (receiving works). It is needed to avoid spammers who signup for free to send spam.

mailbox.org does not require a phone number. It also includes its own calendar sync and online office suite(although I've never really tried the office functionality myself). I've been using it for a few years now and I can't complain.

prox 6y ago

I like protonmail myself, take a look at that.

iimblack 6y ago

Tutanota seems like the safest and most secure option I’ve been able to find.

brongondwana 6y ago

Unfortunately we still need some kind of signal that you're a unique person at signup to avoid infinite fraud (as it is we still get waves of thousands of accounts at a time who have worked out a way to get their hands on a pile of numbers and are finessing an attack on someone else via us). You can delete the number once you've signed up, though of course that means that if you forget your password is reduces the channels by which we can validate that you're the same person! (this is also quite common: many HN users would be surprised how often people forget passwords)

hombre_fatal 6y ago
Those people can also stop paying you and just wait until you recycle their email address. No password recovery needed when it's up for anyone to grab.
- brongondwana 6y ago
  Apart from that we're no longer recycling email addresses as fast as we used to (except for trials that never paid, they only get prescribed for a short time) that doesn't work so well for getting access to your existing email!

malinens 6y ago

I work for inbox.eu It is based in European Union and has 20 years experience as e-mail provider We do not require phone number for premium users. If You are using free trial version You still need to verify phone number to test e-mail sending (receiving works). It is needed to avoid spammers who signup for free to send spam.