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Teletext Bad Apple
- sdfhbdf 6y agoKind of off topic: Judging by the title it's another one of these write-ups on how AAPL is the worst anti-competititve monopoly that is using its position to do bad things. Thankfully it's something completely unrelated.
- uxp100 6y agoUnless you're familiar with Bad Apple, that is. Sort of a meme, not exactly sure why, I guess the visuals, as far as the song goes I think it's one of the lesser Touhou tracks.
- q3k 6y agoAt some point the video became the standard thing to show on weird displays. We mostly have Marcan to thank for that [1], I think. Kind of like porting Doom to prove that you have code execution on something that you never were meant to have code execution in the first place, but instead to prove you can display full motion video on something that was never meant to display full motion video. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSL0FDcsVJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSL0FDcsVJE
- echelon 6y agoI remember seeing OpenLase after I developed a bunch of laser projector games [1] [2]. I wish I had known about it back then. Python was a huge bottleneck, and I had to come up with workarounds for the GIL and other problems. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x034jVB1avs&t=15s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x034jVB1avs&t=15s [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTi-jf-ans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTi-jf-ans
- codetrotter 6y agoThat’s very cool and inspirational! I’ve been wanting to do laser projection too. Was your laser projector home built or bought online? If home built, do you have some links describing how to do it? If bought online, do you have a link to where you ordered it from?
- plorkyeran 6y agoThe fact that the video uses exactly two colors and isn't even greyscale is probably a big part of it.
- jabroni_salad 6y agoThat is a feature of the content rather than the technology. The original video was a silhouette piece in black & white: https://youtu.be/G3C-VevI36s https://youtu.be/G3C-VevI36s That's also why it has so much presence in the demo scene. It loses very little fidelity when transcribed to different mediums, be it teletext, ascii [1], flip dots [2], or an oscilloscope [3]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT2ufnGe9Cc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT2ufnGe9Cc [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0z3SfXpm8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko0z3SfXpm8 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp0JfNlzRU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp0JfNlzRU
- leoc 6y agoI assume it's also because it's ridiculously compressible compared to more normal video of similar resolution?
- Hamuko 6y ago>as far as the song goes I think it's one of the lesser Touhou tracks. There's basically a billion of Touhou tracks at this point and Bad Apple is the lesser of those?
- Lammy 6y agoAs somebody who has mistaken AAPL Arguments for Touhou Talk in the past I'm glad we can balance each other out :)
- aarroyoc 6y agoVery cool! I spent a lot of my youth navigating Teletext. Also lots of people doesn't seem to realize that Teletext is still alive and updated daily in some European countries like Spain.
- sjmulder 6y agoIt's still hugely popular in the Netherlands, but somewhat ironically mostly viewed through the web or apps. I wrote a simple command line reader scraping the web version: https://github.com/sjmulder/nostt https://github.com/sjmulder/nostt
- sverhagen 6y agoHang on, I'm Dutch, I know it still exists, but how you'd say, is it still "hugely popular"?
- sjmulder 6y agoPersonal observation, but also the app is #12 for news on the App Store and NOS themselves stated in 2017 that the service is popular: https://www.spreekbuis.nl/npo-en-nos-over-de-toekomst-van-teletekst/ https://www.spreekbuis.nl/npo-en-nos-over-de-toekomst-van-te... (I’m not going to argue about where to drawn the line between ‘hugely’ or merely popular etc)
- treve 6y agoAnecdotal, but my dad uses it daily though the app. I love that such a limited canvas still has use. It's not unlike twitter in that sense.
- Ndymium 6y agoStill there in Finland. :) https://yle.fi/aihe/tekstitv https://yle.fi/aihe/tekstitv
- nayuki 6y agoRelated: https://www.azabani.com/2020/06/29/bad-apple-for-taskmgr.html https://www.azabani.com/2020/06/29/bad-apple-for-taskmgr.htm...
- q3k 6y agoRelated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ckCeE_HUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ckCeE_HUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAxWIAjz6S4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAxWIAjz6S4 (ESP32 + Ikea FREKVENS)
- jasonjayr 6y agoAlso Related: 8088 Domination https://youtu.be/_yTsCOy7j0M?t=174 https://youtu.be/_yTsCOy7j0M?t=174 (live version fro demo party, energy in the room is wild)
- alexfoo 6y agomikefax
- monadic2 6y agoFor reference on what teletext is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext
- chmod775 6y agoI wonder how this could pass anyone who's now older than 10 years by. Are there countries that just never had (widespread adoption of) teletext? Most people probably haven't used or seen teletext in years, but I'd expect people to know what it is anyways because there's cultural references aplenty.
- throwanem 6y agoAs far as I know, it was never implemented anywhere in the US. I don't think I was aware of its existence until some time in my 20s, and then only because I took an active interest in retro- and unusually constrained computing environments, and their allies such as oldschool information services.
- duskwuff 6y ago> Are there countries that just never had (widespread adoption of) teletext? It was never really a thing in the US. There were a couple of short-lived attempts, but none of them ever caught on, and receiver hardware was rare.